Gospel of Thomas with Doug and Noa: Logion 19

Logion 19:  Jesus said, “Blessed is he who came into being before he came into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you. For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death”. 


Noa:  The first part makes sense.  The first line kind of says all are blessed, right.  We all in some way chose to come into being before being incarnated here.  Since he does seem to be a first order spiritual being, he could also be referring to himself as being blessed since he really seemed to know himself before incarnation.

If you become… Again points us toward it being a choice or option.

And listen to my words…  this seems important, one can be his disciple and not really listen to his words, one has to be open, listening for the stones to open into deeper teachings.

Stones = words of wisdom or just wisdom or the deeper meaning of life.

I have no idea what the five trees are.  Maybe Love, joy, peace, patience, understanding.  5 ideas that are pillars of understanding in some way.  Maybe as we progress in the logion it will open up to me.


Doug: My take on this cryptic logion is that Jesus is speaking primarily about unitive consciousness and becoming an adept.  Who knows how “correct” my thinking is, but alas, we try.

“Blessed is the [one] who came into being before [they] came into being” may reflect a person who has reached the threshold level of conscious awareness in their own spiritual evolution to be able to know for themselves their chosen path before incarnating in Earth’s third density experience.  The Ra group and other esoteric material including reincarnation popularizer Michael Newton, PhD, and his book, Lives Between Lives, suggest that when a person reaches a certain level of consciousness advancement, they begin to direct their own path for each of their incarnations.

This means that in time-space, or the astral plane, a person is already operating with a high degree of internal locus of control wherein they choose what lessons they want to take on prior to incarnating into space-time, or our third density manifested experience. In order to begin calling the shots, as it were, a certain level of green ray or heart activation has to happen and at the time that the Law of One was being brought through, the Ra group said that approximately 54% of Earth humans were able to direct their own choices [1].


“If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will minister to you.” This suggests that Jesus’ words and leadership are designed by the Logos to awaken people towards unitive consciousness.  One of the hallmarks of that high level of consciousness is truly seeing with our eyes through the lens of our hearts how every created thing is a portal, a particularity, a singularity, through which we can see the whole Universal Christ (Logos).  At this level, stones sing their praises and we can be taken in, seduced, by the sheer love expressed in the isness (Haecceity) of the stones.  Their noble existence ministers to our weary minds that often get lost within the illusion of separation. They cry out, echoing the words of the Ra group, “See us! We are the One Infinite Creator. We are also in the Creator and the Creator is in us! This is true for you, too! Just look!! Don’t forget the mystery of the unity of all things!!” [2]

Ken Wilber writes in his wonderful book, The Eye of Spirit: Integral Art and Literary Theory, how we can access this radiant beauty:


Think of the most beautiful person you have ever seen. Think of the exact moment you looked into his or her eyes, and for a fleeting second you were paralyzed: you couldn’t take your eyes off that vision. You stared, frozen in time, caught in that beauty. Now imagine that identical beauty radiating from every single thing in the entire universe: every rock, every plant, every animal, every cloud, every person, every object, every mountain, every stream—even the garbage dumps and broken dreams—every single one of them, radiating that beauty. You are quietly frozen by the gentle beauty of everything that arises around you. You are released from grasping, released from time, released from avoidance, released altogether into the eye of Spirit, where you contemplate the unending beauty of the Art that is the entire World.

That all-pervading Beauty is not an exercise in creative imagination. It is the actual structure of the universe. That all-pervading Beauty is in truth the very nature of the Kosmos right now. . . . If you remain in the eye of the Spirit, every object is an object of radiant Beauty. If the doors of perception are cleansed, the entire Kosmos is your lost and found Beloved, the Original Face of primordial Beauty, forever, and forever, and endlessly forever. And in the face of that stunning Beauty, you will completely swoon into your own death, never to be seen or heard from again, except on those tender nights when the wind gently blows through the hills and the mountains, quietly calling your name.


For there are five trees for you in Paradise which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever becomes acquainted with them will not experience death”. 

What could those five trees mean?  I really don’t know to what Jesus was referring and whether the trees are metaphors that would make sense within his historical context. However, I can share what makes sense to me given my own studies!

The five trees are the balanced and harmonized second, third, fourth, fifth, and six chakras.  The Ra group shares that the first and seventh chakras are not usually counted and are of the providence of the Creator, as it were.  The first chakra is the very foundational energy of the Creator, Itself, and is drawn in and up through each person’s base to be used in their incarnated state in third density.  The red ray energy would be like artist’s clay freely given by the Creator for each person to mold and create to their heart’s content throughout their life. The seventh chakra, likewise, is not counted because it “is the mark, the register, the identity, the true vibration of an entity” [3, 4, and 5]. There is no ability to block, unblock, or manipulate this seventh energy ray center.

However, the other centers are holes the flute, so to speak, and are used to make our music and so we can dance our dance upon the stage of life.  Trees are always powerful archetypal  symbols of rootedness and wingedness.  They reach down deep so they can fly high towards the solar-Logos.  In Jesus’ words here, these trees do not experience the cycles of life and death.


This is saying that when we have achieved enough balance and harmony through efficient use of our catalysts over life times, then we have learned to enter into the eternal realms whether through the magical route or the mystical route.  This is the province of the adept who is a human endeavoring to become a crystallized conduit of the Creator’s Love and Light.  Not only has the illusion of death fallen away for such souls but also they actively participate in bringing in higher vibrations of love to the planet, itself.


[1] 21.9 Questioner: Now, when the 75,000-year cycle started, [the] life span was approximately nine hundred years, average. What was the process and scheduling of— mechanism, shall I say, of reincarnation at that time, and how did the time in between incarnations into third-density physical apply to the growth of the mind/body/spirit complex?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think or consider of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.

Thus, the beginning entity is one in all innocence oriented towards animalistic behavior using other-selves only as extensions of self for the preservation of the all-self. The entity becomes slowly aware that it has needs, shall we say, that are not animalistic; that is, that are useless for survival. These needs include: the need for companionship, the need for laughter, the need for beauty, the need to know the universe about it. These are the beginning needs.

As the incarnations begin to accumulate, further needs are discovered: the need to trade, the need to love, the need to be loved, the need to elevate animalistic behaviors to a more universal perspective.

During the first portion of third-density cycles, incarnations are automatic and occur rapidly upon the cessation of energy complex of the physical vehicle. There is small need to review or to heal the experiences of the incarnation. As, what you would call, the energy centers begin to be activated to a higher extent, more of the content of experience during incarnation deals with the lessons of love.

Thus the time, as you may understand it, between incarnations is lengthened to give appropriate attention to the review and the healing of experiences of the previous incarnation. At some point in third density, the green-ray energy center becomes activated and at that point incarnation ceases to be automatic.

21.10 Questioner: When incarnation ceases to become automatic I am assuming that the entity can decide when he needs to reincarnate for the benefit of his own learning. Does he also select his parents?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

21.11 Questioner: At this time in our cycle, near the end, what percentage of the entities, approximately, incarnating are making their own choices?

Ra: I am Ra. The approximate percentage is five four, fifty-four [54] percent.

[2] 10.14 Questioner: For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra.

Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.

Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.

[3] 34.15 Questioner: You just used the term third ray in that statement. Was that the term you meant to use?

Ra: I am Ra. We intended the green ray. Our difficulty lies in our perception of red ray and violet ray as fixed; thus the inner rays are those which are varying and are to be observed as those indications of seniority in the attempts to form an harvest.

[4] 15.12 Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?

Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows:

The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental.

The next energy complex which may be blocked is the emotional or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions towards power, manipulation, and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex.

Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

The center of heart, or green ray, is the center from which third-density beings may springboard, shall we say, towards infinite intelligence. Blockages in this area may manifest as difficulties in expressing what you may call universal love or compassion.

The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

The next center is the pineal or indigo-ray center. Those blocked in this center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent energy due to manifestations which appear as unworthiness. This is that of which you spoke. As you can see, this is but one of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into the mind/body/spirit complex. The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least-distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and having also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

The remaining center of energy influx is simply the total expression of the entity’s vibratory complex of mind, body, and spirit. It is as it will be, “balanced” or “imbalanced” has no meaning at this energy level, for it gives and takes in its own balance. Whatever the distortion may be, it cannot be manipulated as can the others and, therefore, has no particular importance in viewing the balancing of an entity.

[5] 39.10 Questioner: I sense that there is fruitful ground for investigation of our development in tracing the evolution of the bodily energy centers because these seven centers seem to be linked with all of the sevens that I spoke of previously and be central to our own development. Could you describe the process of evolution of these bodily energy centers starting with the most primitive form of life to have them?

Ra: I am Ra. This material has been covered previously to some extent. Therefore, we shall not repeat information upon which rays dwell in first and second density and the wherefores of this, but rather attempt to enlarge upon this information.

The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.

The next foundation ray is yellow. This is the great stepping stone ray. At this ray the mind/body potentiates to its fullest balance. The strong red/orange/yellow triad springboards the entity into the center ray of green. This is again a basic ray but not a primary ray.

This is the resource for spiritual work. When green ray has been activated we find the third primary ray being able to begin potentiation. This is the first true spiritual ray in that all transfers are of an integrated mind/body/spirit nature. The blue ray seats the learning/teachings of the spirit in each density within the mind/body complex, animating the whole, communicating to others this entirety of beingness.

The indigo ray, though precious, is that ray worked upon only by the adept, as you would call it. It is the gateway to intelligent infinity bringing intelligent energy through. This is the energy center worked upon in those teachings considered inner, hidden, and occult, for this ray is that which is infinite in its possibilities. As you are aware, those who heal, teach, and work for the Creator in any way which may be seen to be both radiant and balanced are those activities which are indigo ray.

As you are aware, the violet ray is constant and does not figure into a discussion of the functions of ray activation in that it is the mark, the register, the identity, the true vibration of an entity.





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