By Doug Esse and Victor

Audio

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Victor Steeghs is a longtime friend of L/L Research and a profound spiritual seeker who shares a love for the Law of One material. We met at the 2022 Law of One Homecoming event and reconnected recently. We have a lot in common, including having followed the work of David Wilcock, Corey Goode, and a few other disclosure advocates for a certain period. We discuss our journeys into–and out of–a prevalent conspiracy mindset with respect to ET disclosure. Maybe you will find your own story dovetailing with ours? We explore ET Disclosure with and without the above mentioned folks, including also Trump, and the MAGA movement. Doug, specifically, notes an interesting phenomenon where many people formally very opposed to traditionalism or traditional religion are discovering, or rediscovering, it now with an interest in Trad Catholicism, traditional interpretations of esoteric Christianity, and/or the Greek/Russian Orthodox worldview. What might be going on there? How might these things connect with those interested in the Law of One or ET disclosure? https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-v9knq-15b2b13

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The transcript of the podcast episode is below the following slides.

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The following slides are taken from my long infographic article on disclosure.

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Warfare Disclosure
Advocates rely on insiders, or are themselves insiders, who seek to disclose these points:

•Humanity is approaching a new collective paradigm shift that will culminate into an “ascension” into fourth density (or 5D, as is sometimes used by advocates);

•Aliens exist and have been involved with humanity;

•There is advanced technology that has been kept secret;

•There has been a concerted effort to keep the ET truth covered up from public knowledge in order to deceive humanity and keep them controlled;

•There is a negative shadowy human elite power structure that functions within a strict hierarchy which controls humanity from behind the scenes;

•The negative human elites work for, and are controlled by, advanced negative aliens;

•These negative human elites adhere to a luciferian or satanic religion;

•These negative human elites have committed heinous crimes against humanity for millennia;

•In order for long-enslaved humanity to ascend to fourth density, it is of paramount importance to expose the negative elites and their mass manipulation and abuse for all to see.

•Whatever we know, and however we know what we know, is FALSE because our “reality” is a carefully crafted matrix control system created by the negative elites in order to enslave us; and finally;

•The negative aliens and their third-density henchmen must be removed from power so that humanity can finally be free and ascend to fourth density. That will be accomplished by our uprising or an “act of God” like a huge solar flash that wipes out the Deep State’s technology.

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Our spiritual attention span is still in the early-stages

—like that of a child (42.12, 60.27).

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–What are the techniques of programming which the higher self uses to ensure that the desired lessons are learned or attempted by the third-density self in our third-density incarnational laboratory? // Ra: I am Ra. There is but one technique for this growing, or nurturing, of will and faith, and that is the focusing of the attention. The attention span of those you call children is considered short. The spiritual attention span of most of your peoples is that of the child (42.12). 

–Ra: Entities receive the basic information [from the Confederation] about the Original Thought and the means—that is, meditation and service to others—whereby this Original Thought may be obtained […] Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but, instead, rattles about within the mind-complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information (60.27). 

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Warfare Disclosure:
Frustration of continual repetition of early-stage spirituality can lead to spiritual bypassing where we fool ourselves into believing we’ve transcended third-density but in actuality detune ourselves to living third-density with an orange-ray overlay (42.12, 60.27)
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As we saw above, Ra lets us know that the spiritual attention span of our peoples is short, like that of a child.  People pray for aid and are given inspiration to meditate, silence the mind, and do acts of service.  Most of us don’t and that’s one of the reasons why we continue to live third-density lives behind an orange-ray overlay instead of polarizing towards a green-ray worldview.  The orange-ray overlay upon a third-density person is the stuff of warfare spirituality. 

When I have operated from a warfare mindset, I cannot live a contemplative life—a way of living that is about receiving and being present to the moment without judgment, analysis, or critique. I suspect that warfare disclosure advocates find it difficult to also live contemplatively. If they were living in this way, they would not talk the way they do or teach what they teach.

Without giving ourselves the experience of silence—not just the absence of noise, but the silencing of ideas, concepts, images, visions, (ref 5.2, 49.8, 50.8, 99.5, 104.3), “the data [regarding catalysts and how to use them efficiently] will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit (10.14).

Ra says that the heart of spiritual maturity (discipling the personality) is three-fold: “1) know yourself, 2) accept yourself, 3) become the Creator” (74.11).  Very few people know themselves at the kind of depth that Ra speaks about, and one of the main reasons why is because we don’t put into practice what we know would spiritually help us.  We call for aid, we receive answers, yet we stagnate, and in our restlessness and frustration, we are vulnerable to tuning our spiritual focus down into the consciousness-frequency of the warfare worldview…from which warfare disclosure narratives arise. And in the paradigm of warfare disclosure, we find like-minded people (community bias), who confirm our beliefs (confirmation bias), that we alone are transcending the evil matrix control system (conspiracy bias), so that we can free humanity from our enslavement (confidence bias). These biases liberate us from our existential angst and the burden of holding space for complexity (simplicity bias). And this is when we hem ourselves into the warfare worldview-–the vibratory conditions of third-density overladen by the orange ray—but we believe ourselves to be living from the higher centers. 

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We are unable to be honest with ourselves and others (48.7)

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Ra: There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy, for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self (48.7).

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Note: I believe that when Ra says we are not honest, I do not think Ra is talking specifically of overt lying or freedom of speech.  Rather, Ra is alluding our inability to be honest with ourselves—and honestly see our own biases that bespeak our yellow and orange-rays blockage (low self-awareness or insight).

Free communication expressed by the blue-ray is “free” not because one is able to communicate whenever and whatever they want, but because one’s communication is more or less free from orange and yellow rays blockages.  It’s more akin to Buddhism’s notion of “Right Speech.”

On the other hand, low self-awareness can lead to addictions, destructive relationships, existential anxiety, entitlement, and selfishness (40.15).

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Warfare Disclosure:
Low self-awareness leads to little capacity to engage in honest and healthy communication between self and others (48.7).
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Warfare Disclosure advocates believe that telling the truth about the grand matrix control system the evil aliens and their negative third-density elite humans have created is of paramount importance. They have sometimes called themselves, “Truthers” and they agree with Ra that one of the great problems with humanity is our “paucity” of honesty because we live lives of lies within a system of falsity and manipulation.  As with many conspiracies theories, there are threads of truth in them but the biases inherent in a warfare worldview obfuscate truths into false external binaries. Indeed, “under stress or shame, we are attracted to stories that relieve us, exonerate us, or portray us as innocent victims of malicious conspirators.” Thus, warfare disclosure narratives misplace the meaning of Ra’s statement that humanity possesses little honesty by locating “honesty” within the urgency to tell the truth about the lies of those evil Others. Red-pilling is the answer.

In contrast, honest blue-ray communication presupposes a balanced lower-chakra triad and an activated green-ray center (heart chakra). It is likely very rare that this configuration can exist within a warfare worldview because such honesty does not scapegoat or need to project.

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We use our intuitive perceptions in such an unbalanced manner that we can stagnate or even depolarized (44.9).

Ra: The function of intuition is to inform intelligence. In your illusion the unbridled  predominance of intuition will tend to keep an entity from the greater polarizations due to the vagaries of intuitive perception (49.4).

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On one hand, intuition is important and learning to listen to it can really help.  On the other hand, most spiritual-but-not-religious people often do not trust an external authority to help them make sense of their reality. Instead, they look to their intuition to inform them of their truth.  And therein lies the problem as Ra points out above. “My truth tells me this…” “My Higher Self tells me you are wrong.” “This does not feel right and I go by my feelings to tell me what’s true.”

I have seen a few couples get divorced in an otherwise functional marriage because one person’s spiritual journey awakens them to the fact that they are ascending in their vibrations and their partner has become an anchor which drags them down. And since their partner’s vibrations are so low in comparison, they must be cut off so the ascending one can fly.  It’s been my experience that this kind of attitude is almost always connected to narcissistic tendencies within the one who leaves because of their higher vibrations. They don’t realize the devastation they leave behind… or worse, they posit that whatever pain others feel about their decisions to follow their path is actually a service they provide for them.  In the name of some type of “crazy wisdom,” the one leaving convinces themselves that as a spiritual teacher, they have a soul contract to teach those painful lessons to their hurting and confused family in this lifetime. In other words, if other people are triggered by this significant decision to leave my partnership and family in order to follow my intuition, then that is not my problem. In fact, at some point in the future in this lifetime or after death, they will thank me for honoring my contract with them.This kind of attitude, which is quite common, very well may keep people entrapped in their lower triad.

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Warfare Disclosure:
Unbridled intuitive perceptions stagnate ability to efficiently use catalysts (44.9)
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As Ra says, “The function of intuition is to inform intelligence. In your illusion the unbridled  predominance of intuition will tend to keep an entity from the greater polarizations due to the vagaries of intuitive perception.”

When my truth, or my group’s truth just feels right—that it resonates strongly—then we may fall prey to the three big biases present in warfare disclosure: conspiracy bias, community bias, and confirmation bias. 

Epistemology refers to what we know and how we know it. From my experience, warfare disclosure advocates overly rely upon intuitive perceptions to supplement their overall epistemology, which is mostly based upon hidden knowledge and disclosure intel.  And because of this, many warfare disclosure advocates effectively wall themselves inside fortified positions where their high level of existential angst and constant state of high anxiety–caused by high degrees of alienation–sublimates into righteous anger.

And ensconced as they are within the warfare worldview, their unbridled intuitive perceptions may contribute to people’s depolarization even as they feel they are polarizing more towards the positive.

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We place great amounts of emotional importance upon specific information or intel  (26.36).

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Questioner: Can you tell me, do you have any idea what percentage of […] groups [are] heavily polluted by [negative polarity] information […]?

Ra: I am Ra. To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will, or confusion, of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences; it is the importance placed upon it (26.36).

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The bottom-line question is this: Do I use specific information as a catalyst to physically, or emotionally, or spiritually position myself over and against others? How much emotion is involved? Feelings of anger? Vindication? Confirmation? Does it have the intrigue of gossip?

When we do this, we strengthen the vibratory conditions of the illusion of separation.  When someone places importance upon the information they learn from insiders, they may feel a strengthening of their identity as one of the few who knows…one of the few who is awake…one of the few who can fight for freedom.  This is the stuff of orange-ray overlay upon yellow-ray living. This is the stuff of zealotry. It’s far away from heart activation. 

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Warfare Disclosure:
The socio/psycho/spiritual importance placed upon intel sets self and community over and against others (26.36)

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The epistemology of warfare disclosure advocates also rely on their latest intel updates of hidden knowledge to tell their narratives about what is REALLY going on.  I personally don’t believe most of what they share, so from my perspective, warfare disclosure influencers not only operate from within an orange-ray overlay worldview, but their “facts” seem suspicious to me.  Nevertheless, it is undeniable that warfare disclosure advocates place high degrees of importance upon their information; just the thing that Ra said would invite negative attention. Below are a few edited versions of information several warfare disclosure advocates offer on their websites.

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Warfare Disclosure:
The socio/psycho/spiritual importance placed upon intel sets self and community over and against others (26.36)
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Here are three slightly edited examples from well-known spiritual teacher who endeavors to provide the latest intel about what is happening behind the scenes so that humanity can ascend to fourth density.  From my perspective, his work is couched in service-to-others energy and I believe that he is a good guy.  But I also believe that he operates entirely within the warfare disclosure worldview. He places high importance on his intel and he wants his audience to do this as well.

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“Fear of possession, desire for possession, fear of being possessed, desire to be possessed,” unprocessed fear of being infringed upon becomes the warfare worldview (26.38, 32.14)

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We continue to not balance our orange and yellow-ray energy centers even as the cosmic green-ray energy intensifies our catalyst for us to seek the self in order to balance the self  (41.14).

A third-density person who operates from an orange-ray overlay often experiences reality from a warfare bias. Their understanding of the world is that bellicose elites desire to violently infringe upon the others’ sovereignty, therefore we cannot trust authorities and should actively resist their control systems.

When such a person encounters another, their energetic blockage is very often the lens through which they view their other-self. They will often believe that the other person has an hidden desire to somehow control and manipulate them or their loved ones. Two or more people with significant lower-chakra triad blockage will find it hard to get past deeper-level mutual distrust even if they are part of a tight-knit community. Their community will function as echo chambers where their warfare worldviews are affirmed. Together, people with these blockages “grasp the needle and point their [community’s] compass in [the] direction” (ref 13.23] of an Other whom all can agree is a bellicose elite and wishes to “possess” them, to use Ra’s wording.

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Warfare Disclosure:
Self-Centeredness In the Name of Liberty (41.14)

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[…] The influences of the true-color green acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities [who remain significantly unbalanced] to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self, or green ray. [These entities desire liberty from] governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self (41.14).

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As mentioned above, the cosmic green-ray deluge cause many of us to revert back to the consideration of ourselves (living third-density from an orange-ray overlay) so that we get another opportunity to unblock (become self-aware) our lower-triad blockage (lack of self-awareness). It’s kind of like the cosmos’ way of telling us, “Hey, put your head down and focus on untying that knot in the hose because the water is getting backed up over here.” But we don’t know how or we don’t want to know how to face the self. See what Ra says in 40.15, “[…] [There is a] great number of entities with the so-called mental diseases being due to the effect of this green-ray true color upon the mental configurations of those unready, mentally, to face the self for the first time.”

When I first engaged with warfare disclosure advocates, I felt a genuine affinity for their desire to serve others  and that many of them were very good people who wanted very good things for humanity–but I was shocked at the general low-level of self-awareness. I saw that most people who were attracted to this worldview fully believed they were much more enlightened than the average “normie,” but in reality, they were often struggling with what Ra’s details as the reversion to the orange-ray overlay. I felt this blockage grow within me… and the great anxiety that comes with it.

Often what happens when we cannot face the self in the way to which the cosmic green-ray invites us, we package up our self-rejection and cast it upon some other object.  Warfare disclosure advocates do this collectively—project their collective self-rejection upon any orthodoxy, the establishment, the mainstream media, and the expert-consensus. Rigid ”anti-establishmentarianism” allows warfare disclosure advocates to assuage the tedious and sometimes excruciating urgency of the orange-ray center’s requirement for balance and unblockage.   Their warfare disclosure narratives affirm this worldview and thus help contribute to keeping people within the orange-ray overlay even as advocates celebrate their advanced status of being the few who have pierced the matrix control systems that enslave the great masses of us. It’s all so narcissistic and self-centered… in the name of servicing others and helping to free a captive planet.

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We perceive ourselves to be “gallant figures” and loving servants who take on causes or relationships as service projects, but we can actually depolarize and thus decrease our harvestability even as we believe that we are polarizing more and helping others to polarize (34.17, 41.25). 

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When a person with lower-triad blockage engages with a green-ray activated person, they often reject the latter’s universal compassion and understanding because it doesn’t make sense to them.  The way they have understood life is that almost everyone has an agenda and sometimes it’s better to go on the attack before the other gets a chance to spring their trap. This basic conspiracy bias is commonplace in people with considerable lower-triad blockage and is the reason why Ra says that “the green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves” (41.25). In other words, the green-ray person cannot see the blockages in the other person because they do not have a well-informed blue-ray (wisdom) energy center.

Because of this, many green-ray people may find themselves baffled by the eccentricities of the blocked person and lacking the wisdom to set boundaries, experience their green-ray center closing down as their blockages begin to match the other in sympathetic resonance (32.14).  

Moreover, a green-ray activated person with a usually open heart may find themselves tempted to regress to belligerence, bellicosity, and closed-heartedness when faced with with a large scale conflict. Instead of loving their enemies, they become warrior-like and hateful. This depolarizes the person causing less chance of harvestability (34.17).

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The Example of George Patton:

34.17 Questioner: Is it possible for you to use as an example our General Patton and tell me the effect that war had on him in his development?

Ra: I am Ra. […] The one of whom you speak, known as George, was one in whom the programming of previous incarnations had created a pattern, or inertia, which was irresistible in its incarnation in your time/space. This entity was of a strong yellow-ray activation with frequent green-ray openings and occasional blue-ray openings. However, it did not find itself able to break the mold of previous traumatic experiences of a bellicose nature. This entity polarized somewhat towards the positive in its incarnation due to its singleness of belief in truth and beauty. This entity was quite sensitive. It felt a great honor/duty to the preservation of that which was felt by the entity to be true, beautiful, and in need of defense.

—This entity perceived itself as a gallant figure. It polarized somewhat towards the negative in its lack of understanding the green ray it carried with it, rejecting the forgiveness principle which is implicit in universal love.

—The sum total of this incarnation, vibrationally, was a slight increase in positive polarity but a decrease in harvestability due to the rejection of the Law or Way of Responsibility; that is, seeing universal love, yet still it fought on.

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Warfare Disclosure:
Possible depolarization of green-ray activation and decrease of harvestability of warfare disclosure advocates…

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Warfare disclosure relies on an epistemological bias that nothing is what is seems; that no conventional ways of understanding our reality can be trusted; that only their particular slant on the truth behind mainstream disinformation is valid.

It is very common to hear popular influencers state how they are persecuted by the deep state (controlled by the negative aliens), but they vow to never stop fighting for truth and liberty. Warfare disclosure influencers often perceive themselves as gallant figures. In general, warfare disclosure, because it emerges from the spiritual warfare bias, attempts to inform and empower its gallant heroes to fight against the powers that be. 

Most of warfare disclosure influencers and advocates believe themselves to be “starseeds,” ET souls in human bodies, who incarnated for a mission to be freedom fighters, as it were. A few of them may well be. Regardless, warfare disclosure operates from the very energetic blockage that has existed within our mass consciousness—in fact, it may even be a new distilled, almost crystalized, version of this same blockage which has acted as an attractive light drawing many green-ray activated people to warfare-disclosure activism.

Recall that Ra says that “the green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves” (41.25). The green-ray person who is attracted to warfare disclosure often cannot see that the whole philosophy itself operates from orange and yellow-ray blockage manifested at the collective level. In 32.14, Ra says that green-ray is vulnerable to deactivation from the fear of being violently infringed upon and the desire to express bellicosity.

Because of this, many green-ray warfare disclosure advocates may find their green-ray centers closing down as their blockages begin to sympathetically resonate with the  overall energetic signature of warfare disclosure (32.14).  

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Earth’s Third-Density Experience:
Green-ray energy invites us all back to the fundamentals of balancing the self—then to balancing the self in relationship with others—but in the confusion of our unique mass distortions, we very often create rigid fundamentalism to help us make sense of who we are (orange ray) and what our mission is (yellow ray).
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When we are physically ill, what position do we usually lay in? The fetal position, because under stress, we regress. It is a natural phenomenon which is also found at the .mind and spiritual levels, too.

The usual arc for spiritual people–especially those of us attracted to New Age ideas–who end up in fundamentalist groups, often begins in the green-ray yearning to seek others and become one (referencing Ra’s statement that the “original desire is that entities seek and become one”). However, we know that green-ray people fall prey to other people, groups, or movements who operate with blockage in yellow and orange-ray centers.  The initial love and sense of belonging become overlaid with the general bellicose attitude and respective fear inherent in group yellow/orange-ray blockage. Confusion sets in. Anxiety increases. Bonds between people and with the group’s mission can deepen in defense against increasing existential angst.  At this point, for psychological stability, they naturally look for structure to anchor them into some rootedness.  They may then encounter different belief systems that offer the clarity they seek.  Almost always, the new belief systems are some version of a rigid Traditionalism that gives clear definitions as to what is right, wrong, who the enemy is, and who the good people are. 

And this is why many people who might have been formally progressive leaning undergo a transformation characterized by a significant regression to early-stage spirituality. They do not see this regressive pattern in themselves and actually wholeheartedly believe that they are progressing forward.

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Theme: Characteristic: Religious fundamentalism worldview: Warfare disclosure fundamentalism

Authority: Rulers of this World: Satan has been in control of this world.: Negative aliens (i.e. reptilians, tall greys) have been in control of the world.

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Epistemology

(What we know and how we know it): Can’t trust anything from mainstream: Satan has been in charge of all of the main ways we know things and how we know them including science, media, education, religion, government, and economics. : Negative aliens and their negative human elite servants have created a “matrix control system” so that nothing we think is true is actually true. The delivery systems of this negative matrix include science, media, education, religion, government, and economics.

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Theology: Spiritual Warfare–> Battles between light and dark: There are good forces that battle the bad forces. The good forces are angels, “good” Christians/Muslims, Hindus, etc., patriots/nationalists, Jesus, and God the Father. The bad forces are demons, non-religious fundamentalists, liberals, the elite, and Satan.: The good forces are positive aliens, angels, an alliance of white-hat patriots across different agencies, and warfare disclosure influencers. The bad forces are negative aliens, demons, people ignorant of the warfare going on (“normies,” “sheeple”), liberals, and the elite.

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Eschatology: Apocalyptic: The world is ending soon. The battle has never been more important than now.  Choose your side.: Third density is ending soon. The battle has never been more important than now. Choose your side.

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Salvation: Repent of the “gray” in your worldview.: Salvation is available to anyone if you accept the tenets of the black-white, fundamentalist worldview.: Freedom from the matrix control system AND assurance for ascending to fourth density (or ”5d”) is available to anyone if you accept  the “red pill.” Salvation begins with being “red pilled.”

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I define integral disclosure as the desire to disclose that…

–the ET involvement in humanity,

–the reality of polarity as spiritual pathways,

–the nature of evolution through densities, and

–the ontological unity of all things

…are nothing other than a cosmic interpretation of the Perennial Tradition.

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*That there is a Godhead or Ground, which is the unmanifested principle of all manifestation.

*That the Ground is transcendent and immanent.

*That it is possible for human beings to love, know and become the Ground.

*That to achieve this unitive knowledge, to realize this supreme identity, is the final end and purpose of human existence.

*That there is a Law or Dharma, which must be obeyed, a Tao or Way, which must be followed, if humans are to achieve their final end.

–Aldous Huxley (1944). “The Minimum Working Hypothesis” in Vedanta and the West.

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1.Affirms that one must be humble about what can be known and what is unknown.

•third density is not the density of knowing or understanding, even subjectively.

2.Understands that developmental stages in individual and mass consciousness are natural and that much of the bellicosity we see are different stages fighting each other.

•Pre-modern warrior consciousness

•Traditionalism

•Modernism

•Post-modernism

•Integral

3.Affirms an integral locus of control rather than too much of an internal locus or external locus.

4.Affirms an integral approach to ”spiritual warfare.”

•What we resist persists

•Hurt people hurt people

•If you can name it, you can tame it

•Transformed people transform people

5.Affirms space for the balanced noble warrior

•White blood cells in the Human Collective Body

•Too many warriors: Leukemia or auto-immune diseases in the collective body

6.Affirms a general preferential bias for this world.

7.Affirms that love is our metric, even during times of conflict between other-selves.

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Concluding Thoughts
My views are still quite distorted but I hope they’re more balanced than before

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I want to reiterate that I do not believe that the vast majority of warfare disclosure influencers and advocates are ill-intended nor service-to-self beings.  I recognize the courage of many warfare disclosure advocates to make their opinions heard, and I believe many of them come to warfare disclosure with open hearts and a desire to serve. In fact, one prominent warfare disclosure influencer has shown me great generosity in the past, and for a time, we worked together on a big project that never came to fruition.  The reason why that happened was mostly my fault because I could not articulate to them in a clear way how I had been feeling increasingly uneasy with the general worldview of the disclosure community. By the time I had decided to walk away, I was operating in my own lower chakra blockage of fear and was not able to share more authentically how I had been feeling. And mostly why I couldn’t share what I felt was because I didn’t know what I believed about warfare disclosure. Things were so murky.

As I mentioned at the beginning, this article has been two years in the making. It has taken that long for a lot of the dust to settle and my confusion to produce some clarity that makes sense to me.  All of what I have written is from my own distorted biases which clouds my understanding.

I don’t hold myself as more “enlightened” or advanced than warfare disclosure advocates… I was once in that camp.  Is this article my own lateral pendulum swing in the other direction and thus evidences the very type of scapegoating and bellicosity that I critique? Could be. Maybe there is some of that.  I will say that one of the reasons why it has taken two years to bring my thoughts together is because I am trying to critique the most common type of disclosure—warfare disclosure—in good faith rather than as a reactionary move. 

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Concluding Thoughts
Warfare disclosure is a symptom of our collective blockage, not its cure
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I acknowledge that there ARE conspiracies. I don’t doubt that there are people, including some elites, that have chosen the negative, service to self, polarity.

But what I do doubt is that the most popular types of disclosure advocacy—which I have termed, “warfare disclosure”—helps our planetary mass consciousness evolve upon the positive polarity. 

One of the great afflictions that we have is the inability to hold space for complexity because it is rarely comfortable, bold, or sexy. 

Warfare disclosure advocates by and large, despite holding complex metaphysical beliefs with sophisticated concepts, often espouse fundamentalist biases which are commonly found in early-stage psychological and spiritual levels of maturity. 

Many warfare disclosure advocates have deep psychological pain which is not processed but instead, projected externally upon whomever they consider the maleficent conspirators. 

This is not an anomaly but rather a common defense mechanism that most of us do at some points. But many warfare disclosure advocates ensconce themselves deeper into the very energetic blockages that have characterized our planetary mass consciousness for millennia.  They mire themselves deeper down into the collective orange and yellow-rays blockages precisely because they truly believe they’ve awakened up and out of it. 

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This long article was not written primarily for warfare disclosure advocates because the warfare worldview is almost always too entrenched to be challenged, and I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind.

It is not written for people who are more conventionally minded who do not believe in things likes extraterrestrials or multidimensional reality.  I’m not trying to convince anyone that the Law of One material is what I believe it to be.

I wrote this article for two people, myself and my friend, Ann. She had asked me over a year ago to share some of my thoughts on the state of the most common form of disclosure, and this article is my response.

Through thinking, sifting, seeking, conversing, anguishing, and calling for aid… I have emerged into a new room in my life that makes sense and aligns with what little I know about the world. I am at peace with how I understand my own journey into warfare disclosure which lasted long enough to see the deep hurt there—in myself and in my other-selves.

If you are one of those who advocate for disclosure within this spiritual-warfare worldview, my invitation for you is to stay in it long enough to recognize its usefulness in helping you process your own bellicose attitudes and great fear of being infringed upon.  This will be one of those big things in your life that as Ra says, will fall away (18.5) because it is no longer needed.

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3.14 Questioner: This is slightly trivial, but I was wondering why, in that case, the pyramid was made of many blocks rather than the whole thing being created at once.

Ra: I am Ra. There is a law which we believe to be one of the more significant primal distortions of the Law of One. That is the Law of Confusion. You have called this the Law of Free Will.

We wished to make an healing machine, or time/space ratio complex which was as efficacious as possible. However, we did not desire to allow the mystery to be penetrated by the peoples in such a way that we became worshiped as builders of a miraculous pyramid. Thus it appears to be made, not thought.

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5.2 Questioner: We have decided to accept, if offered, the honor/duty of learning/teaching the healing process. I would ask as to the first step which we should accomplish in becoming effective healers.

Ra: I am Ra. We shall begin with the first of the three teachings/learnings.

We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be opened like a door. The key is silence.

Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular, bearing inner relationships.

To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause blockages and confusions in the already-distorted mind complex. Each acceptance smooths part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders.

The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze outward towards the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary. When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental understanding patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as subtle work.

The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors the second step.

These are the first four steps of learning mental discipline. The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and the infinite mind.

The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases—what you would call the emotions—affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily polarities and to accept them, repeating in a chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind bethinking the consciousness.

The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished.

It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet. The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However, in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes involved.

At this time we would suggest closing the description until the next time of work so that we may devote time to the third area commensurate with its importance.

We can answer a query if it is a short one before we leave this instrument.

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6.1 Questioner: We would like to continue the material from yesterday. We had to cease before [inaudible].

Ra: I am Ra. This is well with us.

We proceed now with the third area of teach/learning concerning the development of the energy powers of healing.

The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed, balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the instrument is then ready to proceed with the great work.

That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle, or communicator, from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.

The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call paranormal abilities, is effected by the opening of a pathway, or shuttle, into intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

At this time we feel these exercises suffice for your beginning. We will, at a future time, when you feel you have accomplished that which is set before you, begin to guide you into a more precise understanding of the functions and uses of this gateway in the experience of healing.

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6.13 Questioner: Thanks. Is all of the earth’s population then—human population of the earth—are all of them originally from Maldek?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a new line of questioning and deserves a place of its own. The ones who were harvested to your sphere from the sphere known before its dissolution as other names, but to your peoples as Maldek, incarnated, many within your earth’s surface rather than upon it. The population of your planet contains many various groups harvested from other second-dimension and cycled third-dimension spheres. You are not all one race or background of beginning. The experience you share is unique to this time/space continuum.

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6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

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8.6 Questioner: How did the United States learn of the technology to build these land [inaudible]?

Ra: I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion, and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology.

In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty-seven of your years ago, to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power-upon-power greater, and your people’s call is greater and greater.

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9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

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10.6 Questioner: Then our present race is formed of a few who originally came from Maldek and quite a few who came from Mars. Are there entities here from other places?

Ra: I am Ra. There are entities experiencing your time/space continuum who have originated from many, many places, as you would call them, in the creation, for when there is a cycle change those who must repeat then find a planetary sphere appropriate for this repetition. It is somewhat unusual for a planetary mind/body/spirit complex to contain those from many, many various loci, but this explains much, for, you see, you are experiencing the third-dimensional occurrence with a large number of those who must repeat the cycle. The orientation, thus, has been difficult to unify even with the aid of many of your teach/learners.

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11.25 Questioner: Then I assume you can’t name him and would ask you where Nikola Tesla got his information?

Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Nikola received information from Confederation sources desirous of aiding this extremely, shall we say, angelically positive entity in bettering the existence of its fellow mind/body/spirit complexes. It is unfortunate, shall we say, that like many wanderers, the vibratory distortions of third-density illusion caused this entity to become extremely distorted in its perceptions of its fellow mind/body/spirit complexes so that its mission was hindered and, in the result, perverted from its purposes.

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12.26 Questioner: Thank you. Well, you spoke of wanderers. Who are wanderers? Where do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity.

When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities, whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, move towards this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.

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12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

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13.13 Questioner: Was the galaxy that we are in created by the infinite intelligence, or was it created by a portion of the individualized infinite intelligence?

Ra: I am Ra. The galaxy, and all other things of material of which you are aware, are products of individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, it, in turn, found its focus and became co-Creator. Using intelligent infinity, each portion created an universe, and—allowing the rhythms of free choice to flow, playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities—each individualized portion channeled the love/light into what you might call intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called natural laws of any particular universe.

Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus, becoming, in turn, co-Creator, and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies, regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws.

It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

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13.16 Questioner: Could you tell me about this first density of planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Each step recapitulates intelligent infinity in its discovery of awareness. In a planetary environment, all begins in what you would call chaos, energy undirected and random in its infinity. Slowly, in your terms of understanding, there forms a focus of self-awareness. Thus the Logos moves. Light comes to form the darkness according to the co-Creator’s patterns and vibratory rhythms, so constructing a certain type of experience.

This begins with first density which is the density of consciousness, the mineral and water life upon the planet learning from fire and wind the awareness of being. This is the first density.

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13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth-density?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.

Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with the present societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest.

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14.14 Questioner: Would there be any value to the people of this planet now, at this time, to complete this machine?

Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions towards longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.

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15.12 Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?

Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows.

The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental.

The next energy complex which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal, complex also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding, or acceptance, of self.

The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray, or solar plexus, center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions towards power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex.

Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

The center of heart, or green ray, is the center from which third-density beings may springboard, shall we say, towards infinite intelligence. Blockages in this area may manifest as difficulties in expressing what you may call universal love, or compassion.

The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity, and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

The next center is the pineal, or indigo-ray, center. Those blocked in this center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent energy due to manifestations which appear as unworthiness. This is that of which you spoke. As you can see, this is but one of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into the mind/body/spirit complex.

The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex (which has its influx then into the transformation, or transmutation, of third density to fourth density), it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and having also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

The remaining center of energy influx is simply the total expression of the entity’s vibratory complex of mind, body, and spirit. It is as it will be. “Balanced” or “imbalanced” has no meaning at this energy level, for it gives and takes in its own balance. Whatever the distortion may be, it cannot be manipulated as can the others and, therefore, has no particular importance in viewing the balancing of an entity.

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17.1 Questioner: Thank you very much. I wish to say again . . . consider it an honor, great honor, and also a privilege, as my [inaudible]. And I would like to reiterate that my questions may sometimes go a little off because I keep going on something that I had already started to work into the applications of the Law of One to better understand primarily the free-will principle and further distortions that we discover.

I got three questions just now in meditation. I’ll ask them first before we continue.

First, we are now in the fourth density. Will the effects of the fourth density increase in the next thirty years? Will we see more changes in our environment and our effect upon our environment?

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the instreaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy patterns within your earth spirals of energy, which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. Thus there will seem to be, shall we say, a new breed. These are those incarnating for fourth-density work.

There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented, or polarized, mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation.

Those who remain in fourth density upon this plane will be of the so-called positive orientation. Many will come from elsewhere, for it would appear that with all of the best efforts of the Confederation, which includes those from your peoples’ inner planes, inner civilizations, and those from other dimensions, the harvest will still be much less than that which this planetary sphere is capable of comfortably supporting in service.

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17.23 Questioner: You spoke of the alleviation of karma being forgiveness. Are . . . I’m having a hard time phrasing this question. I think I’ll have to come back to it. I’ll ask this other question.

Can you tell me why the earth will be fourth-density positive instead of fourth-density negative after the cycle is complete, since it seems that there is a greater negative population?

Ra: I am Ra. The earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good, or positively oriented, entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

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17.31 Questioner: Thank you very much. I don’t wish to take up extra time by asking questions over again. Some are so important I try to ask some similar questions in different ways to expand on the answer. Seems to be [inaudible] what we’re getting at, maybe not.

In the book Oahspe it states that if an individual is more than fifty percent for others—that is, goes over the 50% service to others and is less than fifty percent for service to self—then he is harvestable. Is this a correct statement?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct if the harvesting is to be for the positive fourth-dimensional level.

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18.5 Questioner: Thank you. I have a question here from Jim that I will read verbatim:

“Much of the mystic tradition of seeking on Earth holds that belief that the individual self must be erased or obliterated and the material world ignored for an entity to reach ‘nirvana,’ as it’s called, or enlightenment. What is the proper role of the individual self and its worldly activities in aiding an entity to grow more into the Law of One?”

Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is, in this density, to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.

The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience.

We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One—this preserving the primal distortion of Free Will.

The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.

It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.

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18.21 Questioner: Why did they want larger and stronger organisms?

Ra: The ones of Yahweh were attempting to create an understanding of the Law of One by creating mind/body complexes capable of grasping the Law of One. The experiment was a decided failure from the view of the desired distortions due to the fact that rather than assimilating the Law of One, it was a great temptation to consider the so-called social complex, or sub-complex, as elite or different, and better, than other-selves, this one of the techniques of service to self.

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19.11 Questioner: Can you tell me how this new bodily complex was suited to third-density lessons and what those lessons were?

Ra: I am Ra. There is one necessity for third density. That necessity is self-awareness, or self-consciousness. In order to be capable of such, this chemical complex of body must be capable of the abstract thought. Thus, the fundamental necessity is the combination of rational and intuitive thinking. This was transitory in the second-density forms, operating largely upon intuition, which proved through practice to yield results.

The third-density mind was capable of processing information in such a way as to think abstractly and in what could be termed “useless” ways, in the sense of survival. This is the primary requisite.

There are other important ingredients: the necessity for a weaker physical vehicle to encourage the use of the mind, the development of the already present awareness of the social complex. These also being necessary: the further development of physical dexterity in the sense of the hand, as you call this portion of your body complex.

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19.13 Questioner: I will make a statement with respect to my understanding, then, and ask if I am correct. There is a, what I would call, a physical catalyst operating at all times upon the entities in third density. I assume this operated approximately the same way in second density. It’s a catalyst that acts through what we call pain and emotion.

Is the primary reason for the weakening of the physical body and the elimination of body hair, etc., so that this catalyst would act more strongly upon the mind and therefore create the evolutionary process?

Ra: I am Ra. This is not entirely correct, although closely associated with the distortions of our understanding.

Consider, if you will, the tree for instance. It is self-sufficient. Consider, if you will, the third-density entity. It is self-sufficient only through difficulty and deprivation. It is difficult to learn alone, for there is a built-in handicap, at once the great virtue and the great handicap of third density. That is the rational/intuitive mind.

Thus, the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call it, was designed to distort entities towards a predisposition to deal with each other. Thus, the lessons which approach a knowing of love can be begun.

This catalyst then is shared between peoples as an important part of each self’s development as well as the experiences of the self in solitude and the synthesis of all experience through meditation. The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness. Thus, each may aid each by reflection. This is also a primary reason for the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call the physical complex.

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19.15 Questioner: Then the newest third-density beings who’ve just made the transition from second are still strongly biased towards self-service. There must be many other mechanisms to create an awareness of the possibility of service to others.

I am wondering, first—two things. I’m wondering about the mechanism, and I am wondering when the split takes place, where the entity is able to continue on the road towards service to self that will eventually take him to fourth or fifth density.

I would assume that an entity can continue . . . can start, say, in second density with service totally to self and continue right on through and just stay on what we would call the path of service to self and never ever be pulled over. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The second-density concept of serving self includes the serving of those associated with tribe or pack. This is not seen in second density as separation of self and other-self. All is seen as self since in some forms of second-density entities, if the tribe or pack becomes weakened, so does the entity within the tribe or pack.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus, though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

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19.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what bias creates their momentum toward the chosen path of service to self?

Ra: I am Ra. We can speak only in metaphor. Some love the light. Some love the darkness. It is a matter of the unique and infinitely various Creator choosing and playing among its experiences as a child upon a picnic. Some enjoy the picnic and find the sun beautiful, the food delicious, the games refreshing, and glow with the joy of creation. Some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature. These enjoy a different picnic.

All these experiences are available. It is free will of each entity which chooses the form of play, the form of pleasure.

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20.12 Questioner: Thank you. As soon as the third density started 75,000 years ago and we have incarnate third-density entities, what was the average human life span at that time?

Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this particular portion of your space/time continuum the average lifetime was approximately nine hundred of your years.

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20.18 Questioner: The way I understand it, at the beginning of this 75,000-year cycle, then, we have a mixture of entities—those who have graduated from second density on Earth to become third-density and then a group of entities transferred from the planet Mars to incarnate into third density here. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

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20.20 Questioner: Thank you. What percentage of the entities, roughly, were . . . who were in third density here at that time were Martian, and what percentage were harvested out of Earth’s second density?

Ra: I am Ra. There were perhaps one-half of the third-density population being entities from the Red Planet, Mars, as you call it; perhaps one-quarter from second density of your planetary sphere; approximately one-quarter from other sources, other planetary spheres whose entities chose this planetary sphere for third-density work.

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20.27 Questioner: I will make this assumption, then: if maximum efficiency had been achieved in this 25,000-year period the entities would have polarized either toward service toward self or service to others, one or the other. This would have then made them harvestable at the end of that 25,000-year period to either service-to-self or service-to-others type of fourth density, in which case they would have had to move to another planet because this one would have been in third density for fifty more thousand years. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us untangle your assumption which is complex and correct in part.

The original desire is that entities seek and become one. If entities can do this in a moment, they may go forward in a moment; and thus were this to occur in a major cycle, indeed the third–density planet would be vacated at the end of that cycle.

It is, however, more toward the median, or mean, shall we say, of third–density developments throughout the one infinite universe that there be a small harvest after the first cycle; the remainder having significantly polarized, the second cycle having a much larger harvest; the remainder being even more significantly polarized, the third cycle culminating the process and the harvest being completed.

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21.9 Questioner: Now, when the 75,000-year cycle started, the life span was approximately nine hundred years, average. What was the process and scheduling of . . . mechanism, shall I say, of reincarnation at that time, and how did the time in between incarnations into third-density physical apply to the growth of the mind/body/spirit complex?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think, or consider, of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion, or free will, may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.

Thus, the beginning entity is one in all innocence oriented towards animalistic behavior using other-selves only as extensions of self for the preservation of the all-self. The entity becomes slowly aware that it has needs, shall we say, that are not animalistic; that is, that are useless for survival. These needs include: the need for companionship, the need for laughter, the need for beauty, the need to know the universe about it. These are the beginning needs.

As the incarnations begin to accumulate, further needs are discovered: the need to trade, the need to love, the need to be loved, the need to elevate animalistic behaviors to a more universal perspective.

During the first portion of third-density cycles, incarnations are automatic and occur rapidly upon the cessation of energy complex of the physical vehicle. There is small need to review or to heal the experiences of the incarnation. As, what you would call, the energy centers begin to be activated to a higher extent, more of the content of experience during incarnation deals with the lessons of love.

Thus the time, as you may understand it, between incarnations is lengthened to give appropriate attention to the review and the healing of experiences of the previous incarnation. At some point in third density, the green-ray energy center becomes activated, and at that point incarnation ceases to be automatic.

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22.21 Questioner: Then did the technological advancement of Atlantis come because of this call? I am assuming the call was answered to bring them the Law of One and the Law of Love as a distortion of the Law of One, but did they also then get technological information that caused them to grow into such a highly technological society?

Ra: I am Ra. Not at first. At about the same time as we first appeared in the skies over Egypt and continuing thereafter, other entities of the Confederation appeared unto Atlanteans who had reached a level of philosophical understanding, shall we misuse this word, which was consonant with communication to encourage and inspire studies in the mystery of unity.

However, requests being made for healing and other understandings, information was passed having to do with crystals and the building of pyramids as well as temples, as you would call them, which were associated with training.

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22.5 Questioner: Then can you give me a— Can I assume, then, that this drastic drop from 700-year life span to one less than one hundred years in length during this second 25,000-year period was because of an intensification of a . . . of a condition of lack of service to others? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in part, correct. By the end of the second cycle, the Law of Responsibility had begun to be effectuated by the increasing ability of entities to grasp those lessons which there are to be learned in this density. Thus, entities had discovered many ways to indicate a bellicose nature, not only as tribes or what you call nations, but in personal relationships, each with the other: the concept of barter having given way in many cases to the concept of money; also, the concept of ownership having won ascendancy over the concept of non-ownership on an individual or group basis.

Each entity, then, was offered many more subtle ways of demonstrating either service towards others or service to self, with the distortion of the manipulation of others. As each lesson was understood, those lessons of sharing, of giving, of receiving in free gratitude—each lesson could be rejected in practice.

Without demonstrating the fruits of such learn/teaching the life span became greatly reduced, for the ways of honor/duty were not being accepted.

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24.6 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact the Confederation made?

Ra: I am Ra. In approximately three six zero zero [3,600] of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call Yahweh, had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity; these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take, what you would call, stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of two—we correct this instrument—three three zero zero [3,300] years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.

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24.17 Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after—I believe, it figures to be a six-hundred-year period—why they had to vacate?

Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them [was] that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as Diaspora occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator.

The creation about them tended towards being somewhat bellicose, somewhat oriented towards the enslavement of others, but they themselves, the target of the Orion group by means of their genetic superiority/weakness, became what you may call the underdogs, thereby letting the feelings of gratitude for their neighbors, their family, and their One Creator begin to heal the feelings of elitism which led to the distortions of power over others which had caused their own bellicosity.

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26.36 Questioner: Then I am assuming all of the UFO groups who were getting telepathic contact from the Confederation were, shall we say, high-priority targets for the Orion crusaders, and I would assume that a large percentage of them were, shall we say, had their information polluted then.

Can you tell me, do you have any idea what percentage of these groups were heavily polluted by the Orion information, and if any of them were able to remain purely a Confederation channel?

Ra: I am Ra. To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will, or confusion, of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences; it is the importance placed upon it.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why, then, be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers, and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense, there is no end to beingness.

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26.38 Questioner: As you have stated before, it is a strait and narrow path. There are many distractions.

I plan to create an introduction, shall I say, to the Law of One, traveling through and hitting the high points of this 75,000 year cycle, possibly a few questions into the general future. After this introduction to the Law of One, as I call it, I would like to get directly to the main work, which is creating an understanding that can be disseminated to those who would ask for it—and only to those who would ask for it—for an understanding that can allow them to greatly accelerate their evolution. I am very appreciative and feel it a great honor and privilege to be doing this and hope that we can accomplish this next phase.

I have a question that the instrument has asked that I would like to ask for the instrument. She says, “You speak of various types of energy blockages and transfers, positive and negative, that may take place due to participation in our sexual reproductive complex of actions.” She states, “Please explain these blockages and energy transfers with emphasis upon what an individual seeking to be in accordance with the Law of One may positively do in this area.” Is it possible for you to answer this question?

Ra: I am Ra. It is partially possible, given the background we have laid. This is properly a more advanced question. Due to the specificity of the question we may give general answer.

The first energy transfer is red ray. It is a random transfer having to do only with your reproductive system.

The orange- and the yellow-ray attempts to have sexual intercourse create, firstly, a blockage if only one entity vibrates in this area, thus causing the entity vibrating sexually in this area to have a never-ending appetite for this activity. What these vibratory levels are seeking is green-ray activity. There is the possibility of orange- or yellow-ray energy transfer; this being polarizing towards the negative: one being seen as object rather than other-self, the other seeing itself as plunderer, or master, of the situation.

In third ray there are two possibilities. Firstly, if both vibrate in third ray, there will be a mutually strengthening energy transfer. The negative or female, as you call it, drawing the energy from the roots of the beingness up through the energy centers, thus being physically revitalized; the positive, or male, polarity, as it is deemed in your illusion, finding in this energy transfer an inspiration which satisfies and feeds the spirit portion of the body/mind/spirit complex; thus both being polarized and releasing the excess of that which each has in abundance by nature of intelligent energy, that is, negative/intuitive, positive/physical energies as you may call them—this energy transfer being blocked only if one or both entities have fear of possession, of being possessed, of desiring possession, or desiring being possessed.

The other green-ray possibility is that of one entity offering green-ray energy, the other not offering energy of the universal love energy, this resulting in a blockage of energy for the one not green ray, thus increasing frustration or appetite; the green-ray being polarizing slightly towards service to others.

The blue-ray energy transfer is somewhat rare among your people at this time but is of great aid due to energy transfers involved in becoming able to express the self without reservation or fear.

The indigo-ray transfer is extremely rare among your people. This is the sacramental portion of the body complex whereby contact may be made through the violet ray with intelligent infinity. No blockages may occur at these latter two levels due to the fact that if both entities are not ready for this energy, it is not visible, and neither transfer nor blockage may take place. It is as though the distributor were removed from a powerful engine.

This instrument was able, as an example of this working, to baffle the Orion group during [tape blank] experiences, as you call this substance, due to the fact that it effectively completely opened other-self to third-ray—we correct this instrument, it is growing low in vital energy—green-ray energy and partially open other-self to blue-ray interaction.

May we ask if you have any queries before we close?

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27.12 Questioner: I would like for you to define Love in the sense . . . in its sense as the Second Distortion.

Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity, or unity, or the One Creator, with the primal distortion of Free Will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshiped as the Creator instead of unity, or oneness, from which all Loves emanate.

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27.13 Questioner: Is Love . . . is there a manifestation of Love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration, or density, of love, or understanding, is not a term used in the same sense as the Second Distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the Ways of Light or Wisdom.

Thus in vibratory sense love comes into light. In the sense of the activity of unity in its free will, love uses light and has the power to direct light in its distortions. Thus vibratory complexes recapitulate in reverse the creation in its unity, thus showing the rhythm, or flow, of the great heartbeat, if you will use this analogy.

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27.7 Questioner: Now I think I have extracted an important point from this in that in intelligent infinity we have work without polarity, or a potential difference does not have to exist. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential in relation to intelligent energy.

In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided: One use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other term, in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by foci or focuses of [intelligent] energy.

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27.15 Questioner: Then I will expand a bit more on this concept. We have the infinite vibration of Love which can occur, I am assuming, at varying frequencies, if this has a meaning in this. I would assume that it begins at one basic frequency.

Does this have any meaning? Am I making sense? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Each Love, as you term the prime movers, comes from one frequency, if you wish to use this term. This frequency is unity. We would perhaps liken it rather to a strength than a frequency, this strength being infinite, the finite qualities being chosen by the particular nature of this primal movement.

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28.13 Questioner: Thank you. Do all of the individualized portions of the Logos, then, in our— I’ll call the lenticular galaxy that we are in, 250 billion suns, or stars, I will call that the major galaxy just so we will not get mixed up in our terms.

Does all the consciousness, then, in this individualized form that goes into what we are calling the major galaxy start out and go through all of the densities in order, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven or—then to eighth—or is there, shall I say, some who start higher up the rank and go in a . . . so that there is always a mixture of intelligent consciousness in the galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. The latter is more nearly correct. In each beginning, there is the beginning from infinite strength. Free Will acts as a catalyst. Beings begin to form the universes. Consciousness then begins to have the potential to experience. The potentials of experience are created as a part of intelligent energy and are fixed before experience begins.

However, there is always, due to Free Will acting infinitely upon the creation, a great variation in initial responses to intelligent energy’s potential. Thus almost immediately the foundations of the, shall we call it, hierarchical nature of beings begins to manifest as some portions of consciousness, or awareness, learn through experience in a much more efficient manner.

Category: Science: Evolution

28.14 Questioner: Is there any reason for some portions being much more efficient in learning?

Ra: I am Ra. Is there any reason for some to learn more quickly than others? Look, if you wish, to the function of the will . . . the, shall we say, attraction to the upward spiraling line of light.

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29.11 Questioner: Thank you. Yesterday you stated that planets in first density are in a timeless state to begin with. Can you tell me how the effect we appreciate as time comes into being?

Ra: I am Ra. We have just described to you the state of beingness of each Logos. The process by which space/time comes into continuum form is a function of the careful building, shall we say, of an entire, or whole, plan of vibratory rates, densities, and potentials. When this plan has coalesced in the thought complexes of Love, then the physical manifestations begin to appear; this first manifestation stage being awareness or consciousness.

At the point at which this coalescence is at the livingness or beingness point—the point, or fountainhead, of beginning—space/time then begins to unroll its scroll of livingness.

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30.1 Questioner: I am going to make a statement and then let you correct it if I have made any errors. This is the statement: creation is a single entity, or unity. If only a single entity exists, then the only concept of service is service to self. If this single entity subdivides, then the concept of service of one of its parts to the other part is born. From this concept springs the equality of service to self, or to others.

It would seem that as the Logos subdivided, parts would select each orientation. As individualized entities emerge in space/time then I would assume that they have polarity. Is this statement correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This statement is quite perceptive and correct until the final phrase in which we note that the polarities begin to be explored only at the point when a third-density entity becomes aware of the possibility of choice between the concept, or distortion, of service to self or service to others. This marks the end of what you may call the unselfconscious, or innocent, phase of conscious awareness.

30.5 Questioner: I would like to know how the mind/body/spirit complexes originate. How, going back as far as necessary, does the— Do they originate by spirit forming mind and mind forming body? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider that you are attempting to trace evolution. This evolution is as we have previously described: the consciousness being first, in first density, without movement, a random thing. Whether you may call this mind or body complex is a semantic problem. We call it mind/body complex, recognizing always that in the simplest iota of this complex exists, in its entirety, the One Infinite Creator.

This mind/body complex then in second density discovering the growing and turning towards the light, thus awakening what you may call the spirit complex, that which intensifies the upward spiraling towards the love and light of the Infinite Creator.

The addition of this spirit complex, though apparent rather than real, it having existed potentially from the beginning of space/time, perfects itself by graduation into third density. When the mind/body/spirit complex becomes aware of the possibility of service to self or other-self, then the mind/body/spirit complex is activated.

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31.15 Questioner: Would the Orion group then be able, shall we say, to impress on entities this orange-ray effect? Or did they— Is this the way that this came about, is what I’m trying to get at. Is this the way these concepts came about on this planet? Because if we go back to the beginning of third density, there must be a primal cause of this.

Ra: I am Ra. The cause of this is not Orion. It is the free choice of your peoples. This is somewhat difficult to explain. We shall attempt.

The sexual energy transfers and blockages are more a manifestation, or example, of that which is more fundamental than the other way about. Therefore, as your peoples became open to the concepts of bellicosity and the greed of ownership, these various distortions then began to filter down through the tree of mind into body complex expressions, the sexual expression being basic to that complex. Thus these sexual energy blockages, though Orion influenced and intensified, are basically the product of the beingness chosen freely by your peoples.

This will be the final question unless we may speak further upon this question to clarify, or answer any short queries before we close.

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32.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. I will now continue with the material from day before yesterday. Our subject is how sexual polarity acts as a catalyst in evolution and how to best make use of this catalyst. Going back to that material, I will fill in a few gaps that we possibly don’t understand at this point too well.

Can you tell me the difference between orange- and yellow-ray activation? I am going to work up from red ray right on through the violet, and we covered red ray, so what’s the difference between orange- and yellow-ray activation?

Ra: I am Ra. The orange ray is that influence, or vibratory pattern, wherein the mind/body/spirit expresses its power on an individual basis. Thus power over individuals may be seen to be orange ray. This ray has been quite intense among your peoples on an individual basis. You may see in this ray the treating of other-selves as non-entities, slaves, or chattel, thus giving other-selves no status whatever.

The yellow ray is a focal and very powerful ray, and concerns the entity in relation to, shall we say, groups, societies, or large numbers of mind/body/spirit complexes. This orange—we correct ourselves—this yellow-ray vibration is at the heart of bellicose actions in which one group of entities feel the necessity and right of dominating other groups of entities and bending their wills to the wills of the masters.

The negative path, as you would call it, uses a combination of the yellow ray and the orange ray in its polarization patterns. These rays, used in a dedicated fashion, will bring about a contact with intelligent infinity. The usual nature of sexual interaction, if one is yellow or orange in primary vibratory patterns, is one of blockage and then insatiable hunger due to the blockage. When there are two selves vibrating in this area, the potential for polarization through the sexual interaction is begun, one entity experiencing the pleasure of humiliation and slavery, or bondage, the other experiencing the pleasure of mastery and control over another entity. In this way a sexual energy transfer of a negative polarity is experienced.

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32.14 Questioner: I just meant was it possible, say, for a green-ray . . . when we’re talking about green-ray activation and energy transfers, is it possible for a green-ray person who is primarily green-ray activation to vary on both sides of green ray a large or a small amount in energy activation, or does he stay primarily green-ray?

Ra: I am Ra. We grasp the newness of material requested by you. It was unclear, for we thought we had covered this material. The portion covered is this: the green-ray activation is always vulnerable to the yellow or orange ray of possession, this being largely yellow ray but often coming into orange ray. Fear of possession, desire for possession, fear of being possessed, desire to be possessed: these are the distortions which will cause the deactivation of green-ray energy transfer.

The new material is this: once the green ray has been achieved, the ability of the entity to enter blue ray is immediate and is only awaiting the efforts of the individual. The indigo ray is opened only through considerable discipline and practice largely having to do with acceptance of self, not only as the polarized and balanced self but as the Creator, as an entity of infinite worth. This will begin to activate the indigo ray.

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33.6 Questioner: Thank you. I was wondering if there is a programming of experiences that causes an individual to get certain catalyst in his daily life. For instance, as we go through our daily life there are many things that we can experience. We look at these experiences as occurring by pure chance or by a conscious design of ours, like making appointments or going places. I was just wondering if there was a behind-the-scenes, I might call it, programming of catalyst to create the necessary experiences for more rapid growth in the case of some entities. Is this . . . does this happen?

Ra: I am Ra. We believe we grasp the heart of your query. Please request further information if we are not correct.

The incarnating entity which has become conscious of the incarnative process and thus programs its own experience may choose the amount of catalyst or, to phrase this differently, the number of lessons which it will undertake to experience and to learn from in one incarnation. This does not mean that all is predestined, but rather that there are invisible guidelines shaping events which will function according to this programming. Thus if one opportunity is missed, another will appear until the, shall we say, student of the life experience grasps that a lesson is being offered and undertakes to learn it.

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34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called a karma in an incarnation, is there, then, programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalyst that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness, thereby alleviating the karma?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time, through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns.

This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes, or stops, what you call karma.

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35.4 Questioner: I would now like to ask for the same type of information with respect to Adolf Hitler. You have given a little of this already. It is not necessary to re-cover what you have already given, but if you could complete that information it would be helpful.

Ra: I am Ra. In speaking of the one you call Adolf we have some difficulty due to the intense amount of confusion present in this entity’s life patterns as well as the great confusion which greets any discussion of this entity.

Here we see an example of one who, in attempting activation of the highest rays of energy while lacking the green-ray key, canceled itself out as far as polarization either towards positive or negative. This entity was basically negative. However, its confusion was such that the personality disintegrated, thus leaving the mind/body/spirit complex unharvestable and much in need of healing.

This entity followed the pattern of negative polarization which suggests the elite and the enslaved, this being seen by the entity to be of an helpful nature for the societal structure. However, in drifting from the conscious polarization into what you may call a twilight world where dream took the place of events in your space/time continuum, this entity failed in its attempt to serve the Creator in an harvestable degree along the path of service to self. Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

We have advised and suggested caution and patience in previous communications and do so again, using this entity as an example of the over-hasty opening of polarization without due attention to the synthesized and integrated mind/body/spirit complex. To know yourself is to have the foundation upon firm ground.

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39.6 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me— Can you interpret a transmission from The Nine where they say, “CH is a principle which is the revealing principle of knowledge and law?” Can you tell me what that principle is?

Ra: I am Ra. The principle so veiled in that statement is but the simple principle of the constant (or Creator) and the transient (or the incarnate being) and the yearning existing between the two, one for the other, in love and light amidst the distortions of free will acting upon the illusion-bound entity.

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40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the Logos, or sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this. This is made up of frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light, then, contains the experiences through all of the densities, and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which emerges on the other side as another Logos, or sun, and starts another octave of experience.

Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form, once again, the Great Central Sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by Free Will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the sub-concept, or corollary, of the portion of this process which is timeless.

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40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between one hundred [100] and seven hundred [700] of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

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40.10 Questioner: What, assuming that we are, our vibration— I am assuming this vibration started increasing about between twenty and thirty years ago. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The first harbingers of this were approximately forty-five of your years ago, the energies vibrating more intensely through the forty-year period preceding the final movement of vibratory matter, shall we say, through the quantum leap, as you would call it.

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40.11 Questioner: Starting then, forty-five years ago, and taking the entire increase in vibration that we will experience in this density change, approximately what percentage of the way through this increase of vibration are we right now?

Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory nature of your environment is true-color green. This is at this time heavily over-woven with the orange ray of planetary consciousness. However, the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level.

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40.15 Questioner: Thank you. A very important concept. Does the fact that basic vibration that we experience now is green true color, or fourth density, account for the fact that there are many mental effects upon material objects that are now observable for the first time in a mass way, like the bending of metal by mind?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the final query, in total, of this working. This is not only correct but we suggest you take this concept further and understand the great number of entities with the so-called mental diseases being due to the effect of this green-ray true color upon the mental configurations of those unready, mentally, to face the self for the first time.

Are there any brief queries before we close?

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41.14 Questioner: Is this energy center, then, on a very small scale, related to the orange energy center in man?

Ra: I am Ra. The true color is precisely the same. However, the consciousness of the second-density beginning is primitive and the use of orange ray limited to the expression of self which may be seen to be movement and survival.

In third density, at this time, those clinging to orange ray have a much more complex system of distortions through which orange ray is manifested. This is somewhat complicated. We shall endeavor to simplify.

The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true-color green acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self, or green ray.

This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray—and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time—are those who feel the vibrations of true-color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

Thus true-color orange is that which it is, without difference. However, the manifestations of this, or any ray, may be seen to be most various depending upon the vibratory levels and balances of the mind/body or mind/body/spirit complexes which are expressing these energies.

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41.19 Questioner: Thank you. In yesterday’s, or the day before yesterday’s session, you mentioned variable speed of rotation or activity of energy centers. What did you mean by that, speed of rotation?

Ra: I am Ra. Each energy center has a wide range of rotational speed, or as you may see it more clearly in relation to color, brilliance. The more strongly the will of the entity concentrates upon and refines, or purifies, each energy center, the more brilliant, or rotationally active, each energy center will be. It is not necessary for the energy centers to be activated in order in the case of the self-aware entity. Thusly, entities may have extremely brilliant energy centers while being quite unbalanced in their violet-ray aspect due to lack of attention paid to the totality of experience of the entity.

The key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray.

This is why the brilliance, or rotational speed, of the energy centers is not considered above the balanced aspect, or violet-ray manifestation, of an entity in regarding harvestability; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays, will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.

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42.2 Questioner: I will just read it very rapidly, the question, then.

I am going to make a statement and ask you to comment on its degree of accuracy. I am assuming that the balanced entity would not be swayed either towards positive or negative emotions by any situation which he might confront. By remaining unemotional in any situation, the balanced entity may clearly discern the appropriate and necessary responses in harmony with the Law of One for each situation.

Most entities on our planet find themselves unconsciously caught up into every emotional situation which they come in contact with according to their own unique biases. And, because of these biases, they are unable to see clearly teach/learning opportunities and appropriate response in each emotional situation and must, therefore, through a process of much trial and error and enduring of resulting pain, repeat such situations many, many times until they become consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and thusly their responses and behaviors.

Once a person becomes consciously aware of the need to balance their energy centers and responses, the next step is to allow the appropriately positive or negative responses to emotional situations to flow smoothly through their being without retaining any of the emotional coloration after it has been consciously observed and allowed to flow through the being. And I am assuming that this ability to consciously observe the positively or negatively charged energy flowing through the being may be augmented by practice of the balancing exercises you have given us, with the result in balance being achieved for the entity which would allow him to remain unemotional and undistorted in regards to the Law of One in any situation, much like the objective viewer of the television movie.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an incorrect application of the balancing which we have discussed. The exercise of first experiencing feelings and then consciously discovering their antitheses within the being has as its objective not the smooth flow of feelings, both positive and negative, while remaining unswayed, but rather the objective of becoming unswayed. This is a simpler result and takes much practice, shall we say.

The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed.

This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences. This is the truer balance.

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42.12 Questioner: In the last session you said, “The self, if conscious to a great enough extent of the workings of the catalyst of fasting, and the techniques of programming, may, through concentration of the will and the faculty of faith alone, cause reprogramming without the analogy of fasting, diet, or other analogous body complex disciplines.”

What are the techniques of programming which the higher self uses to ensure that the desired lessons are learned or attempted by the third-density self in our third-density incarnational laboratory?

Ra: I am Ra. There is but one technique for this growing, or nurturing, of will and faith, and that is the focusing of the attention. The attention span of those you call children is considered short. The spiritual attention span of most of your peoples is that of the child. Thus it is a matter of wishing to become able to collect one’s attention and hold it upon the desired programming.

This, when continued, strengthens the will. The entire activity can only occur when there exists faith that an outcome of this discipline is possible.

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43.5 Questioner: I’ll just try to pick up the last question left over from the last session, if you can answer it. I don’t know if it is of any importance, but it just occurred to me that the parts removed in cattle mutilations are the same every time, and I just wondered if this was related to the energy centers, and why they were important if that was so?

Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct if you may understand that there is a link between energy centers and various thought-forms. Thus the fears of the mass consciousness create the climate for the concentration upon the removal of bodily parts which symbolize areas of concern or fear in the mass consciousness.

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46.9 Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived, not as folly in itself, but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected, or random, energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.

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46.14 Questioner: Then cancer is a training catalyst operating for both polarities in approximately the same way but attempting, let’s say, to create polarization in both directions, positive and negative, depending upon the orientation of the entity experiencing the catalyst. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect in that catalyst is unconscious and does not work with intelligence but rather is part of the, shall we say, mechanism of learn/teaching set up by the sub-Logos before the beginning of your space/time.

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48.7 Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, at birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle, and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation—which body is activated, process of becoming incarnate, the activation of the third-density physical body process as the body moves through this density and is acted upon by catalyst, and then the process of death, and the activation of the various bodies—so that we make a full circuit from a point prior to incarnation back around through incarnation and death and back to that position, you might say, in one cycle of incarnation in this density. Could you do that for me?

Ra: I am Ra. Your query is most distorted, for it assumes that creations are alike. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own patterns of activation and its own rhythms of awakening. The important thing for harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. This is to be noted as of relative import. We grasp the thrust of your query and will make a most general answer stressing the unimportance of such arbitrary generalizations.

The entity, before incarnation, dwells in the appropriate, shall we say, place in time/space. The true-color type of this location will be dependent upon the entity’s needs. Those entities, for instance, which, being wanderers, have the green, blue, or indigo true-color core of mind/body/spirit complex will have rested therein.

Entrance into incarnation requires the investment, or activation, of the indigo-ray, or etheric body, for this is the form maker. The young, or small, physical mind/body/spirit complex has the seven energy centers potentiated before the birthing process. There are also analogs in time/space of these energy centers corresponding to the seven energy centers in each of the seven true-color densities. Thus in the microcosm exists all the experience that is prepared. It is as though the infant contains the universe.

The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy, for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self.

Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard, one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication; of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy; and, if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate, or hallowed, nature of everyday creations and activities.

Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space, at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.

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49.4 Questioner: Well, please . . . will you go ahead and comment on it?

Ra: I am Ra. The lobes of your physical complex brain are alike in their use of weak electrical energy. The entity ruled by intuition and impulse is equal to the entity governed by rational analysis when polarity is considered. The lobes may both be used for service to self or service to others.

It may seem that the rational, or analytical, mind might have more of a possibility of successfully pursuing the negative orientation due to the fact that, in our understanding, too much order is, by its essence, negative. However, this same ability to structure abstract concepts and to analyze experiential data may be the key to rapid positive polarization. It may be said that those whose analytical capacities are predominant have somewhat more to work with in polarizing.

The function of intuition is to inform intelligence. In your illusion the unbridled predominance of intuition will tend to keep an entity from the greater polarizations due to the vagaries of intuitive perception. As you may see, these two types of brain structure need to be balanced in order that the net sum of experiential catalyst will be polarization and illumination, for without the acceptance by the rational mind of the worth of the intuitive faculty, the creative aspects which aid in illumination will be stifled.

There is one correspondence between right and left, and positive and negative. The web of energy which surrounds your bodies contains somewhat complex polarizations. The left area of the head and upper shoulder is most generally seen to be of a negative polarization, whereas the right is of positive polarization, magnetically speaking. This is the cause of the tone’s meaning for you.

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49.5 Questioner: Will you expand on the positive and negative magnetic polarizations in general and how it applies to, say, individuals and planets, etc.? I think there is a correlation here, but I’m not sure.

Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that there is a correlation between the energy field of an entity of your nature and planetary bodies, for all material is constructed by means of the dynamic tension of the magnetic field. The lines of force in both cases may be seen to be much like the interweaving spirals of the braided hair. Thus positive and negative wind and interweave forming geometric relationships in the energy fields of both persons, as you would call a mind/body/spirit complex, and planets.

The negative pole is the south pole, or the lower pole. The north, or upper pole, is positive. The crisscrossings of these spiraling energies form primary, secondary, and tertiary energy centers. You are familiar with the primary energy centers of the physical, mental, and spiritual body complex. Secondary points of the crisscrossing of positive and negative center orientation revolve about several of your centers. The yellow-ray center may be seen to have secondary energy centers in elbow, in knee, and in the subtle bodies at a slight spacing from the physical vehicle at points describing diamonds about the entity’s navel area surrounding the body.

One may examine each of the energy centers for such secondary centers. Some of your peoples work with these energy centers, and you call this acupuncture. However, it is to be noted that there are most often anomalies in the placement of the energy centers so that the scientific precision of this practice is brought into question. Like most scientific attempts at precision, it fails to take into account the unique qualities of each creation.

The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower, or negative pole, will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.

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49.6 Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening, as they say, the kundalini, and of what value would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by your peoples. This is what you are attempting when you seek. There are, as we have stated, great misapprehensions concerning this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal. We must generalize and ask that you grasp the fact that this, in effect, renders far less useful that which we share. However, as each entity is unique, generalities are our lot when communicating for your possible edification.

We have two types of energy. We are attempting, then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along, or upward along, the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst, the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true-color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh.

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49.8 Questioner: Is it better, or shall I say, does it produce more usable results in meditation to leave the mind, shall I say, as blank as possible—let it run down, so to speak—or is it better to focus in meditation on some object or some thing for concentration?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this work time.

Each of the two types of meditation is useful for a particular reason. The passive meditation involving the clearing of the mind—the emptying of the mental jumble which is characteristic of mind complex activity among your peoples—is efficacious for those whose goal is to achieve an inner silence as a base from which to listen to the Creator. This is an useful and helpful tool, and is, by far, the most generally useful type of meditation as opposed to contemplation or prayer.

The type of meditation which may be called visualization has as its goal not that which is contained in the meditation itself. Visualization is the tool of the adept. Those who learn to hold visual images in mind are developing an inner concentrative power that can transcend boredom and discomfort. When this ability has become crystallized in an adept, the adept may then do polarizing in consciousness without external action which can affect the planetary consciousness. This is the reason for existence of the so-called white magician. Only those wishing to pursue the conscious raising of planetary vibration will find visualization to be a particularly satisfying type of meditation.

Contemplation, or the consideration in a meditative state of an inspiring image or text, is extremely useful also among your peoples, and the faculty of will called praying is also of a potentially helpful nature. Whether it is, indeed, an helpful activity depends quite totally upon the intentions and objects of the one who prays.

May we ask if there are any brief queries at this time?

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50.2 Questioner: In the last session you made the statement that experiences are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Could you expand on that and give us a definition of what you mean?

Ra: I am Ra. It takes some consideration to accomplish the proper perspective for grasping the sense of the above information. The south, or negative, pole is one which attracts. It pulls unto itself those things magnetized to it. So with the mind/body/spirit complex the in-flow of experience is of the south pole influx. You may consider this a simplistic statement.

The only specific part of this correctness is that the red-ray, or foundation energy center, being the lowest, or root, energy center of the physical vehicle, will have the first opportunity to react to any experience. In this way only you may see a physical locus of the south pole being identified with the root energy center. In every facet of mind and body the root, or foundation, will be given the opportunity to function first.

What is this opportunity but survival? This is the root possibility of response and may be found to be characteristic of the basic functions of both mind and body. You will find this instinct the strongest, and once this is balanced much is open to the seeker. The south pole then ceases blocking the experiential data, and higher energy centers of mind and body become availed of the opportunity to use the experience drawn to it.

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50.8 Questioner: Thank you. How does the ability to hold visual images in mind allow the adept to do polarization in consciousness without external action?

Ra: I am Ra. This is not a simple query, for the adept is one which will go beyond the green ray which signals entry into harvestability. The adept will not simply be tapping into intelligent energy as a means of readiness for harvest, but tapping into both intelligent energy and intelligent infinity for the purpose of transmuting planetary harvestability and consciousness.

The means of this working lie within. The key is first, silence, and secondly, singleness of thought. Thusly a visualization which can be held steady to the inward eye for several of your minutes, as you measure time, will signal the adept’s increase in singleness of thought. This singleness of thought, then, can be used by the positive adept to work in group ritual visualizations for the raising of positive energy, by negative adepts for the increase in personal power.

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52.9 Questioner: Well, I would just include the question as to why time of harvest is selected by so many wanderers as time for incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. They may be divided by the terms self and other-self.

The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary-consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest.

There are two other reasons for choosing this service which have to do with the self.

The wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher-density catalyst.

The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity, or members of a societal entity, can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfectly balanced. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

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53.9 Questioner: In a “close encounter” by a Confederation type of craft I assume that this “close encounter” is with a thought-form type of craft. Do wanderers within the past few years have “close encounters” with landed thought-form type of craft?

Ra: I am Ra. This has occurred, although it is much less common than the Orion type of so-called “close encounter.” We may note that in a universe of unending unity the concept of a “close encounter” is humorous, for are not all encounters of a nature of self with self? Therefore, how can any encounter be less than very, very close?

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60.16 Questioner: The pyramid shape, then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that—contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago—the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.

Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences, we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system, and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own, and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.

We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device, and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.

We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.

At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation, along with other rounded and arched, or pointed, circular shapes, is of help to you.

However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples, it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids—because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.

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60.27 Questioner: Only if you deem it to be of importance I would request a comment. If you feel it unimportant we’ll skip it.

Ra: I am Ra. This information is significant, to some degree, as it bears upon our own mission at this time.

We of the Confederation are at the call of those upon your planet. If the call, though sincere, is fairly low in consciousness of the, shall we say, system whereby spiritual evolution may be precipitated, then we may only offer that information useful to that particular caller. This is the basic difficulty. Entities receive the basic information about the Original Thought and the means—that is, meditation and service to others—whereby this Original Thought may be obtained.

Please note that, as Confederation members, we are speaking for positively oriented entities. We believe the Orion group has precisely the same difficulty.

Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but, instead, rattles about within the mind-complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed.

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61.7 Questioner: Second question: could you give an example of how feelings affect portions of the body and the sensations of the body?

Ra: I am Ra. It is nearly impossible to speak generally of these mechanisms, for each entity of proper seniority has its own programming. Of the less aware entities we may say that the connection will often seem random as the higher self continues producing catalyst until a bias occurs. In each programmed individual the sensitivities are far more active, and, as we have said, that catalyst not used fully by the mind and spirit is given to the body.

Thus you may see in this entity the numbing of the arms and the hands signifying this entity’s failure to surrender to the loss of control over the life. Thus, this drama is enacted in the physical-distortion complex.

In the questioner we may see the desire not to be carrying the load it carries given as physical manifestation of the soreness of those muscles for carrying used. That which is truly needed to be carried is a pre-incarnative responsibility which seems highly inconvenient.

In the case of the scribe we see a weariness and numbness of feelings ensuing from lack of using catalyst designed to sensitize this entity to quite significant influxes of unfamiliar distortion complexes of the mental/emotional and spiritual level. As the numbness removes itself from the higher, or more responsive, complexes, the bodily-complex distortions will vanish. This is true also of the other examples.

We would note at this time that the totally efficient use of catalyst upon your plane is extremely rare.

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61.11 Questioner: It says here it would seem the proper balancing exercises for all the sensations of the body would be some form of inactivity such as meditation or contemplation. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is largely incorrect. The balancing requires a meditative state in order for the work to be done. However, the balancing of sensation has to do with an analysis of the sensation with especial respect to any unbalanced leaning between the love and the wisdom, or the positive and the negative. Then whatever is lacking in the balanced sensation is, as in all balancing, allowed to come into the being after the sensation is remembered and recalled in such detail as to overwhelm the senses.

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62.20 Questioner: What is the objective—what does the, shall we say, the leader, the one at the very top of the pecking order in fifth-density Orion, have as an objective? I would like to understand his philosophy with respect to his objectives and plans for what we might call the future or his future?

Ra: I am Ra. This thinking will not be so strange to you. Therefore, we may speak through the densities as your planet has some negatively oriented action in sway at this space/time nexus.

The early fifth-density negative entity, if oriented towards maintaining cohesion as a social memory complex, may, in its free will, determine that the path to wisdom lies in the manipulation, in exquisite propriety, of all other-selves. It, then, by virtue of its abilities in wisdom, is able to be the leader of fourth-density beings which are upon the road to wisdom by exploring the dimensions of love of self and understanding of self. These fifth-density entities see the creation as that which shall be put in order.

Dealing with a plane such as this third density at this harvesting it will see the mechanism of the call more clearly and have much less distortion towards plunder, or manipulation by thoughts which are given to negatively oriented entities—although in allowing this to occur and sending less wise entities to do this work, any successes redound to the leaders.

The fifth density sees the difficulties posed by the light and in this way directs entities of this vibration to the seeking of targets of opportunity such as this one. If fourth-density temptations, shall we say, towards distortion of ego, etc., are not successful, the fifth-density entity then thinks in terms of the removal of light.

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63.15 Questioner: Would the purpose in transitioning to Earth prior to the complete changeover then be for the experience to be gained here during the harvesting process?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. These entities are not wanderers in the sense that this planetary sphere is their fourth-density home planet. However, the experience of this service is earned only by those harvested third-density entities which have demonstrated a great deal of orientation towards service to others. It is a privilege to be allowed this early an incarnation as there is much experiential catalyst in service to other-selves at this harvesting.

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65.10 Questioner: So we have the distinct possibility of two different types of catalyst creating an atmosphere of seeking that is greater than that which we experience at present. There will be much confusion, especially in the scenario of earth changes, simply because there have been many predictions of these changes by many groups giving various and sundry reasons for the changes. Can you comment on the effectiveness of this type of catalyst and the rather wide pre-knowledge of the coming changes, but also the rather wide variation in, shall I say, explanation for these changes?

Ra: I am Ra. Given the amount of strength of the possibility/probability vortex which posits the expression by the planet itself of the difficult birthing of the planetary self into fourth density, it would be greatly surprising were not many which have some access to space/time able to perceive this vortex. The amount of this cold cereal in the grocery, to use our previous analogy, is disproportionately large. Each which prophesies does so from an unique level, position, or vibratory configuration. Thus biases and distortions will accompany much prophecy.

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65.12 Questioner: Then each of the wanderers here acts as a function of the biases he has developed in any way he sees fit to communicate—or simply be in his polarity—to aid the total consciousness of the planet.

Is there any, shall I say, more physical way that he aids in— What I mean is, do his vibrations somehow add to the process, just as electrical polarity or charging a battery or something? Does that also aid the planet, just the physical presence of the wanderers.

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, and the mechanism is precisely as you state. We intended this meaning in the second portion of our previous answer.

You may at this time note that as with any entities, each wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialties, so that from each portion of each density represented among the wanderers comes an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience; so that each wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.

Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.

Thus wanderers have three basic functions once the forgetting is penetrated, the first two being basic, the tertiary one being unique to that particular mind/body/spirit complex.

We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices, that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible.

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65.13 Questioner: How common in the universe is a mixed harvest for a planet of both positively and negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes?

Ra: I am Ra. Among planetary harvests which yield an harvest of mind/body/spirit complexes: approximately 10% are negative; approximately 60% are positive; and approximately 30% are mixed with nearly all harvest being positive.

In the event of mixed harvest it is almost unknown for the majority of the harvest to be negative. When a planet moves strongly towards the negative there is almost no opportunity for harvestable positive polarization.

65.17 Questioner: Then we deal with an entity that has not yet formed a social memory but is yet an entity, just as one of us can be called a single entity. Can we continue this observation of the, shall I say, conglomerate entity through the galactic entity, or shall I say, small planetary system type of entity? Let me try to phrase it this way. Could I look at a single sun in its planetary system as an entity and then look at a major galaxy with its billions of stars as an entity? Can I continue this extrapolation in this way?

Ra: I am Ra. You can but not within the framework of third-density space/time.

Let us attempt to speak upon this interesting subject. In your space/time you and your peoples are the parents of that which is in the womb. The earth, as you call it, is ready to be born, and the delivery is not going smoothly. When this entity has become born it will be instinct with the social memory complex of its parents which have become fourth-density positive. In this density there is a broader view.

You may begin to see your relationship to the Logos, or sun, with which you are most intimately associated. This is not the relationship of parent to child but of Creator (that is Logos) to Creator (that is the mind/body/spirit complex as Logos).

When this realization occurs you may then widen the field of “eyeshot,” if you will, infinitely recognizing parts of the Logos throughout the One Infinite Creation and feeling—with the roots of mind informing the intuition—the parents aiding their planets in evolution in reaches vast and unknown in the creation, for this process occurs many, many times in the evolution of the creation as an whole.

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66.34 Questioner: This planet, to me, seems to be what I would call a cesspool of distortions. This includes all diseases and malfunctions of the physical body in general. It would seem to me that, on the average, this planet would be very, very high on the list if we just took the overall amount of these problems. Am I . . . is my feeling correct in this assumption?

Ra: I am Ra. We will review previous material.

Catalyst is offered to the entity. If it is not used by the mind complex it will then filter through to the body complex and manifest as some form of physical distortion. The more efficient the use of catalyst, the less physical distortion to be found.

There are, in the case of those you call wanderers, not only a congenital difficulty in dealing with the third-density vibratory patterns, but also a recollection, however dim, that these distortions are not necessary or usual in the home vibration.

We over-generalize as always, for there are many cases of pre-incarnative decisions which result in physical or mental limitations and distortions, but we feel that you are addressing the question of widespread distortions towards misery of one form or another.

Indeed, on some third-density planetary spheres catalyst has been used more efficiently. In the case of your planetary sphere there is much inefficient use of catalyst and, therefore, much physical distortion.

We have enough energy available for one query at this time

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67.28 Questioner: Thank you very much. I have a statement here that I will quickly read and have you comment on the accuracy or inaccuracy. In general, the archetypical mind is a representation of facets of the One Infinite Creator.

The Father archetype corresponds to the male or positive aspect of electromagnetic energy and is active, creative, and radiant, as is our local sun. The Mother archetype corresponds to the female or negative aspect of electromagnetic energy and is receptive or magnetic as is our earth as it receives the sun’s rays and brings forth life via third-density fertility. The Prodigal Son or the Fool archetype corresponds to every entity who seems to have strayed from unity and seeks to return to the One Infinite Creator. The Devil archetype represents the illusion of the material world and the appearance of evil but is more accurately the provider of catalyst for the growth of each entity within the third-density illusion.

The Magician, Saint, Healer, or Adept corresponds to the higher self and, because of the balance within its energy centers, pierces the illusion to contact intelligent infinity and, thereby, demonstrates mastery of the catalyst of third density. The archetype of Death symbolizes the transition of an entity from the yellow-ray body to the green-ray body either temporarily between incarnations or, more permanently, at harvest.

Each archetype presents an aspect of the One Infinite Creation to teach the individual mind/body/spirit complex according to the calling, or the electromagnetic configuration of mind, of the entity. Teaching is done via the intuition. With proper seeking, or mind configuration, the power of will uses the spirit as a shuttle to contact the appropriate archetypical aspect necessary for the teach/learning.

In the same way each of the other informers of intuition are contacted. They are hierarchical and proceed from the entity’s own subconscious mind to group, or planetary mind, to guides, to higher self, to archetypical mind, to cosmic mind or intelligent infinity. Each is contacted by the spirit serving as shuttle according to the harmonized electromagnetic configuration of the seeker’s mind and the information sought.

Will you please comment on the accuracy of these observations and correct any errors or fill in any omissions?

Ra: I am Ra. The entity has been using transferred energy for most of this session due to its depleted physical levels. We shall begin this rather complex answer, which is interesting, but do not expect to finish it. Those portions which we do not respond to we ask that you re-question us upon at a working in your future.

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68.17 Questioner: I am interested in how the First Distortion applies to the negatively polarized entity misplacing the mind/body/spirit complex. Why is the negatively polarized entity followed to the place of negative time/space? Why would one of us freely follow the entity?

Ra: I am Ra. The positive polarity sees love in all things. The negative polarity is clever.

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69.12 Questioner: Is it possible to tell me, roughly, how many wanderers that have come to this planet within this master cycle have experienced this displacement into a negative time/space? Just wondering if there have been many.

Ra: I am Ra. We can note the number of such occurrences. There has been only one. We cannot, due to the Law of Confusion, discuss the entity.

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70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space, I understand that the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space. And for some reason this makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us remove the concept of reluctance from the equation and then, secondly, address your query more to the point.

Each time/space is an analog of a particular sort, or vibration, of space/time. When a negative time/space is entered by an entity, the next experience will be that of the appropriate space/time. This is normally done by the form-making body of a mind/body/spirit complex which places the entity in the proper time/space for incarnation.

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70.16 Questioner: Have there been any wanderers on this planet for the past 50,000 years now?

Ra: I am Ra. There have been a few. There have been many more which chose to join this last cycle of 25,000 years and many, many more which have come for harvest.

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72.17 Questioner: Why is there no protection at the floor, or bottom, of the banishing ritual, and should there be?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.

The development of the psychic greeting is possible only through the energy centers starting from a station which you might call within the violet ray, moving through the adept’s energy center and therefrom towards the target of opportunity. Depending upon the vibratory nature and purpose of greeting, be it positive or negative, the entity will be energized, or blocked, in the desired way.

We of Ra approach this instrument in narrow-band contact through violet ray. Others might pierce down through this ray to any energy center. We, for instance, make great use of this instrument’s blue-ray energy center as we are attempting to communicate our distortion-understandings of the Law of One.

The entity of Orion pierces the same violet ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.

The energies of life itself, being the One Infinite Creator, flow from the south pole of the body, seen in its magnetic form. Thus only the Creator may, through the feet, enter the energy shell of the body to any effect. The effects of the adept are those from the upper direction, and thus the building of the wall of light is quite propitious.

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74.4 Questioner: In a previous session there was a question on the archetypical mind that was not fully answered. I would like to continue with the answer to that question. Could you please continue with that, or would it be necessary for me to read the entire question over again?

…Ra: I am Ra. As a general practice it is well to vibrate the query at the same space/time as the answer is desired. However, in this case it is acceptable to us that a note be inserted at this point in your recording of these sound vibratory complexes referring to the location of the query in previous workings.

The query, though thoughtful, is in some degree falling short of the realization of the nature of the archetypical mind. We may not teach/learn for any other to the extent that we become learn/teachers. Therefore, we shall make some general notations upon this interesting subject and allow the questioner to consider and further refine any queries.

The archetypical mind may be defined as that mind which is peculiar to the Logos of this planetary sphere. Thusly, unlike the great cosmic all-mind, it contains the material which it pleased the Logos to offer as refinements to the great cosmic beingness. The archetypical mind, then, is that which contains all facets which may affect mind or experience.

The Magician was named as a significant archetype. However, it was not recognized that this portion of the archetypical mind represents not a portion of the deep subconscious, but the conscious mind and, more especially, the will. The archetype called by some the High Priestess, then, is the corresponding intuitive, or subconscious faculty.

Let us observe the entity as it is in relationship to the archetypical mind. You may consider the possibilities of utilizing the correspondences between the mind/body/spirit in microcosm and the archetypical mind/body/spirit closely approaching the Creator.

For instance, in your ritual performed to purify this place you use the term “Ve Geburah.” It is a correct assumption that this is a portion or aspect of the One Infinite Creator. However, there are various correspondences with the archetypical mind which may be more and more refined by the adept. “Ve Geburah” is the correspondence of Michael, of Mars, of the positive, of maleness. “Ve Gedulah” has correspondences to Jupiter, to femaleness, to the negative, to that portion of the Tree of Life concerned with Auriel.

We could go forward with more and more refinements of these two entries into the archetypical mind. We could discuss color correspondences, relationships with other archetypes, and so forth. This is the work of the adept, not the teach/learner.

We may only suggest that there are systems of study which may address themselves to the aspects of the archetypical mind, and it is well to choose one and study carefully. It is more nearly well if the adept go beyond whatever has been written and make such correspondences that the archetype can be called upon at will.

[There is a 34-second pause between the end of this answer and the beginning of the next question.]

74.11 Questioner: Now, what I am trying to get at is how these disciplines affect the energy centers and the power, shall I say, of the white magician. Could you . . . will you tell me how that works?

Ra: I am Ra. The heart of the discipline of the personality is threefold:

One, know yourself.

Two, accept yourself.

Three, become the Creator.

The third step is that step which, when accomplished, renders one the most humble servant of all, transparent in personality and completely able to know and accept other-selves.

In relation to the pursuit of the magical working, the continuing discipline of the personality involves the adept in knowing itself, accepting itself, and thus clearing the path towards the great indigo gateway to the Creator. To become the Creator is to become all that there is. There is, then, no personality in the sense with which the adept begins its learn/teaching. As the consciousness of the indigo ray becomes more crystalline, more work may be done; more may be expressed from intelligent infinity.

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76.16 Questioner: Third density, then, it appears, is, compared to the rest of the densities—all of them—nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is then for the purpose of this choice.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term.

The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment, but is the axis upon which the creation turns.

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78.20 Questioner: Then our particular Logos, when it created Its own particular creation, was at some point far down the evolutionary spiral of the experiment with the significator becoming what it was not or, in effect, creating the polarity that we strive for in third density and, therefore was, I am assuming, primarily concerned in the design of the archetypes, in designing them in such a way so as they would create the acceleration of this polarization. Is this in any way correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We would only comment briefly. It is generally correct. You may fruitfully view each Logos and its design as the Creator experiencing Itself.

The seed concept of the Significator being a complex introduces two things: firstly, the Creator against Creator in one sub-Logos in what you may call dynamic tension; secondly, the concept of free will, once having been made fuller by its extension into the sub-Logoi known as mind/body/spirit complexes, creates and re-creates and continues to create as a function of its very nature.

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79.23 Questioner: This veil then occurs between what we now call the conscious and the unconscious mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

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82.3 Questioner: Jim has a personal question which is not to be published. He asks, “It seems that my balancing work has shifted from more peripheral concerns such as patience/impatience, to learning to open myself in unconditional love, to accepting my self as whole and perfect, and then to accepting my self as the Creator. If this is a normal progression of focus for balancing, wouldn’t it be more efficient, once this is discovered, for a person to work on the acceptance of self as Creator rather than work peripherally on the secondary and tertiary results of not accepting the self?”

Ra: I am Ra. The term efficiency has misleading connotations. In the context of doing work in the disciplines of the personality, in order to be of more full efficiency in the central acceptance of the self, it is first quite necessary to know the distortions of the self which the entity is accepting. Each thought and action needs must then be scrutinized for the precise foundation of the distortions of any reactions. This process shall lead to the more central task of acceptance. However, the architrave must be in place before the structure is builded.

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82.7 Questioner: Then, if I were observing the beginning of the octave at that time through a telescope, say from this position, would I see the center of many, many galaxies appearing and each of them then spreading outward in a spiral condition over what we would consider billions of years? But the spirals spreading outward in approximately what we would consider the same rate, so that all these galaxies began as the first speck of light at the same time and then spread out in roughly the same rate of spreading? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The query has confusing elements. There is a center to infinity. From this center all spreads. Therefore, there are centers to the creation, to the galaxies, to star systems, to planetary systems, and to consciousness. In each case you may see growth from the center outward. Thus, you may see your query as being over-general in concept.

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82.15 Questioner: Specifically, I am trying to grasp an understanding first of the process of experience in third density before the veil so that I can have a better understanding of the present process. Now, as I understand it, the mind/body/spirit complexes went through the process of what we call physical incarnation in this density, but there was no forgetting. What was the benefit or purpose of the physical incarnation when there was no forgetting?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the Ways of Love.

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82.29 Questioner: You stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize anything more than 50% service to self to be harvestable fourth-density positive. Was this condition the same at the time before the veil? The same percentage polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process. The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms, at your space/time nexus, this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density.

The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross. It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.

May we ask if there are any brief queries at this working?

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83.14 Questioner: I would say that a very high percentage of the laws and restrictions within what we call our legal system are of a nature of enslavement of which I just spoke. Would you agree with this?

Ra: I am Ra. It is a necessary balance to the intention of law, which is to protect, that the result would encompass an equal distortion towards imprisonment. Therefore, we may say that your supposition is correct.

This is not to denigrate those who, in green- and blue-ray energies, sought to free a peaceable people from the bonds of chaos but only to point out the inevitable consequences of codification of response which does not recognize the uniqueness of each and every situation within your experience.

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85.16 Questioner: I have a question here from Jim. It states: “I believe that one of my primary pre-incarnative choices was to open my green-ray energy center for healing purposes. As I see my compassion developing, is it more appropriate to balance this compassion with wisdom in my healing exercises or to allow the compassion to develop as much as possible without being balanced?”

Ra: I am Ra. This query borders upon that type of question to which answers are unavailable due to the free-will prohibitions upon information from teach/learners.

To the student of the balancing process we may suggest that the most stringent honesty be applied. As compassion is perceived it is suggested that, in balancing, this perception be analyzed. It may take many, many essays into compassion before true universal love is the product of the attempted opening and crystallization of this all-important springboard energy center.

Thus the student may discover many other components to what may seem to be all-embracing love. Each of these components may be balanced and accepted as part of the self, and as transitional material, as the entity’s seat of learn/teaching moves ever more fairly into the green ray.

When it is perceived that universal love has been achieved, the next balancing may or may not be wisdom. If the adept is balancing manifestations it is indeed appropriate to balance universal love and wisdom. If the balancing is of mind or spirit there are many subtleties to which the adept may give careful consideration. Love and wisdom, like love and light, are not black and white, shall we say, but faces of the same coin, if you will. Therefore, it is not in all cases that balancing consists of a movement from compassion to wisdom.

We may suggest at all times the constant remembrance of the density from which each adept desires to move. This density learns the lessons of love. In the case of wanderers there are half-forgotten overlays of other lessons and other densities.

We shall leave these considerations with the questioner and invite observations which we shall then be most happy to respond to in what may seem to be a more effectual manner.

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85.19 Questioner: I would like to carry that on to find out what specific functions of the mind were most effectual, and the three or four most effective changes brought about to create the polarization.

Ra: I am Ra. This is an interesting query. The primary veiling was of such significance that it may be seen to be analogous to the mantling of the earth over all the jewels within the earth’s crust; whereas previously all facets of the Creator were consciously known. After the veiling, almost no facets of the Creator were known to the mind. Almost all was buried beneath the veil.

If one were to attempt to list those functions of mind most significant in that they might be of aid in polarization, one would need to begin with the faculty of visioning, envisioning, or far-seeing. Without the veil the mind was not caught in your illusory time. With the veil, space/time is the only obvious possibility for experience.

Also upon the list of significant veiled functions of the mind would be that of dreaming. The so-called dreaming contains a great deal which, if made available to the conscious mind and used, shall aid it in polarization to a great extent.

The third function of the mind which is significant and which has been veiled is that of the knowing of the body. The knowledge of and control over the body, having been lost to a great extent in the veiling process, is thusly lost from the experience of the seeker. Its knowledge before the veiling is of small use. Its knowledge after the veiling, and in the face of what is now a dense illusion of separation of body complex from mind complex, is quite significant.

Perhaps the most important and significant function that occurred due to the veiling of the mind from itself is not in itself a function of mind but rather is a product of the potential created by this veiling. This is the faculty of will or pure desire.

We may ask for brief queries at this time. Although there is energy remaining for this working we are reluctant to continue this contact, experiencing continual variations due to pain flares, as you call this distortion. Although we are unaware of any misgiven material, we are aware that there have been several points during which our channel was less-than-optimal. This instrument is most faithful, but we do not wish to misuse this instrument. Please query as you will.

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86.7 Questioner: You stated that dreaming, if made available to the conscious mind, will aid greatly in polarization. Would you define dreaming, or tell us what it is and how it aids in polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. Dreaming is an activity of communication through the veil of the unconscious mind and the conscious mind. The nature of this activity is wholly dependent upon the situation regarding the energy center blockages, activations, and crystallizations of a given mind/body/spirit complex.

In one who is blocked at two of the three lower energy centers dreaming will be of value in the polarization process in that there will be a repetition of those portions of recent catalyst as well as deeper-held blockages, thereby giving the waking mind clues as to the nature of these blockages, and hints as to possible changes in perception which may lead to the unblocking.

This type of dreaming, or communication through the veiled portions of the mind, occurs also with those mind/body/spirit complexes (which are functioning with far less blockage and enjoying the green-ray activation or higher activation) at those times at which the mind/body/spirit complex experiences catalyst, momentarily reblocking or baffling or otherwise distorting the flow of energy influx.

Therefore, in all cases it is useful to a mind/body/spirit complex to ponder the content and emotive resonance of dreams.

For those whose green-ray energy centers have been activated—as well as for those whose green-ray energy centers are offered an unusual unblockage due to extreme catalyst, such as what is termed the physical death of the self, or one which is beloved occurring in what you may call your near future—dreaming takes on another activity. This is what may loosely be termed precognition, or a knowing which is prior to that which shall occur in physical manifestation in your yellow-ray third-density space/time. This property of the mind depends upon its placement, to a great extent, in time/space so that the terms of present and future and past have no meaning. This will, if made proper use of by the mind/body/spirit complex, enable this entity to enter more fully into the all-compassionate love of each and every circumstance, including those circumstances against which an entity may have a strong distortion towards what you may call unhappiness.

As a mind/body/spirit complex consciously chooses the path of the adept and, with each energy center balanced to a minimal degree, begins to open the indigo-ray energy center, the so-called dreaming becomes the most efficient tool for polarization; for if it is known by the adept that work may be done in consciousness while the so-called conscious mind rests, this adept may call upon those which guide it, those presences which surround it, and, most of all, the magical personality (which is the higher self in space/time analog) as it moves into the sleeping mode of consciousness. With these affirmations attended to, the activity of dreaming reaches that potential of learn/teaching which is most helpful to increasing the distortions of the adept towards its chosen polarity.

There are other possibilities of the dreaming not so closely aligned with the increase in polarity which we do not cover at this particular space/time.

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90.4 Questioner: Actually, the question I intended was how do they get here? By what means of moving?

Ra: I am Ra. In the mechanism of the calling, the movement is as you would expect; that is, the entities are within your planetary influence and are, having come through the quarantine web, free to answer such calling.

The temptations are offered by those negative entities of what you would call your inner planes. These, shall we say, dark angels have been impressed by the service-to-self path offered by those which have come through quarantine from days of old. And these entities, much like your angelic presences of the positive nature, are ready to move in thought within the inner planes of this planetary influence working from time/space to space/time.

The mechanism of the fifth-density entity is from density to density and is magical in nature. The fourth density, of itself, is not capable of building the highway into the energy web. However, it is capable of using that which has been left intact. These entities are, again, the Orion entities of fourth density.

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91.4 Questioner: Then the very next refinement that occurs as the cosmic mind is refined is what we call the archetypical mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

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91.7 Questioner: Now, some entities on this planet evolved through second density into third, and some were transferred from other planets to re-cycle in third density here. Did the ones who were transferred here to re-cycle in third density add to the planetary or racial mind?

Ra: I am Ra. Not only did each race add to the planetary mind, but also each race possesses a racial mind. Thus we made this distinction in discussing this portion of mind.

This portion of mind is formed in the series of seemingly non-simultaneous experiences which are chosen in freedom of will by the mind/body/spirit complexes of the planetary influence. Therefore, although this Akashic, planetary, or racial mind is, indeed, a root of mind, it may be seen in sharp differentiation from the deeper roots of mind which are not a function of altering memory, if you will.

We must ask your patience at this time. This channel has become somewhat unclear due to the movement of the cover which touches this instrument. We ask that the opening sentences be repeated and the breath expelled.

[The microphones attached to the cover upon the instrument were pulled slightly as a rug was being placed over a noisy tape recorder. The Circle of One was walked; breath was expelled two feet above the instrument’s head from her right to her left; and the Circle of One was walked again as requested.]

I am Ra. We communicate now.

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93.10 Questioner: The bird, I am guessing, might be a messenger, the two paths depicted by the position of the wings, bringing catalyst which could be used to polarize on either path. Is this in any way correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is a correct perception that the position of the wingèd creature is significant. The more correct perception of this entity and its significance is the realization that the mind/body/spirit complex is, having made contact with its potentiated self, now beginning its flight towards that great Logos which is that which is sought by the adept.

Further, the nature of the wingèd creature is echoed both by the female holding it and the symbol of the female upon which the figure’s feet rest; that is, the nature of catalyst is overwhelmingly of an unconsciousness, coming from that which is not of the mind and which has no connection with the intellect, as you call it, which precedes or is concomitant with catalytic action.

All uses of catalyst by the mind are those consciously applied to catalyst. Without conscious intent the use of catalyst is never processed through mentation, ideation, and imagination.

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93.10 Questioner: The bird, I am guessing, might be a messenger, the two paths depicted by the position of the wings, bringing catalyst which could be used to polarize on either path. Is this in any way correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is a correct perception that the position of the wingèd creature is significant. The more correct perception of this entity and its significance is the realization that the mind/body/spirit complex is, having made contact with its potentiated self, now beginning its flight towards that great Logos which is that which is sought by the adept.

Further, the nature of the wingèd creature is echoed both by the female holding it and the symbol of the female upon which the figure’s feet rest; that is, the nature of catalyst is overwhelmingly of an unconsciousness, coming from that which is not of the mind and which has no connection with the intellect, as you call it, which precedes or is concomitant with catalytic action.

All uses of catalyst by the mind are those consciously applied to catalyst. Without conscious intent the use of catalyst is never processed through mentation, ideation, and imagination.

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93.11 Questioner: I would like, if possible, an example of the activity we call Catalyst of the Mind in a particular individual undergoing this process. Could Ra give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. All that assaults your senses is catalyst. We, in speaking to this support group through this instrument, offer catalyst. The configurations of each in the group of body offer catalyst through comfort/discomfort. In fact all that is unprocessed that has come before the notice of a mind/body/spirit complex is catalyst.

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93.18 Questioner: The third card also shows the wand (I am assuming it is) in the right hand; the ball at the top being the round magical shape. Am I in any way correct in guessing that Catalyst of the Mind suggests possible eventual use of the magic depicted by this wand?

Ra: I am Ra. The wand is astrological in its origin and as an image may be released from its stricture. The sphere of spiritual power is an indication, indeed, that each opportunity is pregnant with the most extravagant magical possibilities for the far-seeing adept.

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93.20 Questioner: I was just wondering if the transparency of the garment on the third card indicates the semi-permeable nature of the veil between conscious and subconscious?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a thoughtful perception and cannot be said to be incorrect. However, the intended suggestion, in general, is an echo of our earlier suggestion that the nature of catalyst is that of the unconscious; that is, outward catalyst comes through the veil.

All that you perceive seems to be consciously perceived. This is not the correct supposition. All that you perceive is perceived as catalyst unconsciously. By the, shall we say, time that the mind begins its appreciation of catalyst, that catalyst has been filtered through the veil, and in some cases much is veiled in the most apparently clear perception.

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94.11 Questioner: I have drawn a small diagram in which I simply show an arrow which represents catalyst penetrating a line at right angles to the arrow, which is the veil, and then depositing in one of two repositories: one which I would call on the right-hand path, one on the left-hand path. And I have labeled these two repositories for the catalytic action as it’s filtered through the veil “the Experience.” Would this be a very rough analogy of the way the catalyst is filtered through the veil to become experience?

Ra: I am Ra. Again, you are partially correct. The deeper biases of a mind/body/spirit complex pilot the catalyst around the many isles of positivity and negativity as expressed in the archipelago of the deeper mind. However, the analogy is incorrect in that it does not take into account the further polarization which most certainly is available to the conscious mind after it has perceived the partially polarized catalyst from the deeper mind.

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99.5 Questioner: Finally, of the preliminary questions, one from Jim stating: “For the last three weeks I have often been at the edge of anger and frustration, have had a nearly constant dull pain at my indigo-ray center, and have felt quite drained of energy. Would Ra comment on the source of these experiences and any thoughts or actions that might alleviate it?”

Ra: I am Ra. As in all distortions, the source is the limit of the viewpoint. We may, without serious infringement, suggest three courses of behavior which shall operate upon the distortion expressed.

Firstly, it would be well for the scribe to engage, if not daily then as nearly so as possible, in a solitary strenuous activity which brings this entity to the true physical weariness. Further, although any activity may suffice, an activity chosen for its intended service to the harmony of the group would be quite efficacious.

The second activity is some of your space/time and time/space taken by the entity, directly or as nearly so as possible to the strenuous activity, for solitary contemplation.

Thirdly, the enthusiastic pursuit of the balancing and silent meditations cannot be deleted from the list of helpful activities for this entity.

We may note that the great forte of the scribe is summed in the inadequate sound vibration complex, power. The flow of power, just as the flow of love or wisdom, is enabled not by the chary conserver of its use, but by the constant user. The physical manifestation of power being either constructive or destructive strenuous activity, the power-filled entity must needs exercise that manifestation.

This entity experiences a distortion in the direction of an excess of stored energy. It is well to know the self and to guard and use those attributes which the self has provided for its learning and its service.

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101.4 Questioner: In this particular case, which avenue was the one that produced the catalyst of the bite?

Ra: I am Ra. The nature of catalyst is such that there is only one source, for the catalyst and experience are further attempts at specificity in dealing with the architecture of the unconscious mind of the self. Therefore, in an incarnational experience the self as Creator, especially the higher self, is the base from which catalyst stands to offer its service to the mind, body, or spirit.

In the sense which we feel you intend, the source was the fifth-density negative friend which had noted the gradual falling away of the inharmonious patterns of the distortion called anger/frustration in the entity. The insect was easily led to an attack, and the physical vehicle, which had long-standing allergies and sensitivities, was also easily led into the mechanisms of the failure of lymphatic function and the greatly diminished ability of the immune system to remove from the yellow-ray body that which distorted it.

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101.8 Questioner: Thank you. Could Ra give information on any way that we could give information to Greta Woodrew as to how to alleviate her present condition of swelling?

Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely, discord, and all things which, when unresolved within, make way for workings lies before the instrument of which you speak. This entity may, if it is desired by the scribe, share our comments upon the working of the latter entity.

The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

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104.3 Questioner: The instrument has determined that the unwise use of her will is its use without the joy and faith components and constitutes martyrdom. Would Ra comment on that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. We are pleased that the entity has pondered that which has been given. We would comment as follows:

It is salubrious for the instrument to have knowledge which is less distorted towards martyrdom and which is rich in promise. The entity which is strong to think shall either be strong to act or that which it has shall be removed. Thus manifestation of knowledge is an area to be examined by the instrument.

We would further note that balancing—which, in this entity’s case, is best accomplished in analysis and manifestation seated with the contemplation of silence—may be strengthened by manifested silence and lack of routine activity. We may go no further than this recommendation of regularized leisure, and desire that the entity discover the fundamental truths of these distortions as it will.

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Hey! Is my microphone working? Yeah. Okay, cool. Sounds great. Awesome. I have a little
companion here. I'll show you. Oh my gosh. That's a baby kitten. That's a baby kitten.
We sponsor baby kittens. Like there's a time right after they're born until
they're old enough to have to go be neutered or spayed or whatever and so we
sponsor there's that sweet time where they can really have fun and play with
them and you know purrs and cuddles but so she's she's just gonna be chilling
probably walking all over me I have a very thick sweater so she doesn't hurt
me with her claws okay awesome it's fun yeah my cats out of the room so
Your cat is out of the room. You know, you're a professional, Victor.
I mean, let's just get right down to it. How are you, bro? I'm doing well. I actually
had a very busy week. A lot of different things were happening. My situation
with living has been kind of switched around. Like, I plan on now going to live with my birth
father for a month. Oh, wow.
Starting in mid April. He lives in upstate New York, Ithaca, he invited just randomly
out of the blue invited me to come learn some handyman skills. He's an architect and he has
a couple of houses.
And so I'm gonna start off doing that.
And then I'm going to possibly move out of my situation
with my brother and roommate as soon as August,
which is right when school would be starting
if I get accepted, which I did.
- Cool.
- And someone yesterday offered me a living situation
to live in her basement.
someone who I met through Gene Keys
and it's 10 minutes away from the campus.
It's like ideal situation
and it just showed up out of nowhere, you know?
And so that's a lot of very quick movement.
- Opening up.
- That's right.
Very cool.
- Amen.
Yeah, I love it.
I love hearing that.
Good deal.
You had a busy weekend too,
didn't you do some fun stuff?
Yeah, we had a lot one meet up.
That was great. That was on Saturday.
I met someone from Naropa.
Who's in the counseling program there. He's been, he'll be in there one year ahead of me.
It looks like. And
yeah, it was just serendipitous that he showed up.
And so I already have a friend over there. And
Then we had a Gene Keys meetup yesterday, and that was also amazing, every time.
It's a really great group.
And I went snowboarding as well on Saturday.
Wow.
It was busy.
It was like a mind-body-spirit connection all the way around.
Huh.
Yeah.
Huh.
- Well, I was in bed or working,
I write these letters for some lawyers
that to help their client, their immigration lawyers,
and they help clients like family stay together.
So I write letters talking about
like psychological evaluations,
if said person gets deported
and what happens to the kids psychologically and stuff.
And it's a real privilege to do it,
but I really, really try to write it
with as much detail and heart
so that when the court officer's reading it,
that they're moved in some way
to wanna be able to keep this family intact.
So I spent a lot of time on it,
but I mean, I was waking up at three,
at four in the morning,
even though I just had surgery, but I can write.
So I'm still kind of in the process of that.
I have ended writing about 16 pages per report, which is a lot.
Yeah, it's definitely a lot.
Sounds like rewarding work for sure.
Oh, man.
I love it.
Yeah, I really do love it.
I'll tell you what, though.
I don't normally take home my clients with me, like in my head,
with the exception of very few.
But some of these cases that I hear from the immigration side of things
are so heartbreaking.
Yeah.
just brutal rape, particularly with like the injustices of the cartels that are going on
and people fleeing for their life, property being completely having to give over to the
cartel with no recourse, legal recourse, because they own the courts too.
Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. How do you do that? How do you, how do you separate your clients
from home life? Yeah, probably everybody's got their own way. I know for me, well
first I would say it's a charism, it's a gift, and some people say they can't do
it, I think everybody can maybe learn how a little bit, but it never was real hard
for me and I think the reason why is because my own way of understanding
stuff is that we're in this giant brother and sister familial relationship
on earth and we're all helping each other carry our crosses. As Ram Dass says, we walk
each other home. So I just literally see everybody in my mind, you know, arm in
arm, just walking, walking each other home, carrying our crosses. And I may not have
experienced rape. I may not have, I certainly don't know what it's like to
be a woman or a Latino woman or anything like that, but I do know what depression
and anxiety and insecurity feels like. And so I stay on the edge of my own balance,
capacity to be present with people through empathy.
And that gives me that break-in to form these kinds of therapeutic alliances.
And then I also believe that my cross is my cross. I mean, to use Christian language,
which of course I don't mean this literally,
but my cross is my cross, your cross is your cross.
I'll help you carry yours, I know you'll help carry mine.
But in the end, we all have certain karmic algorithms
that are necessary for us in our own loving path of love.
And so in that sense, I feel like I can release my need
to have to carry someone else.
I had an experience when I was 25 that my girlfriend was raped.
And it was a big shift for me in learning compassion and learning that some people are
willing to dominate in certain ways that it wasn't.
It was a little bit.
That was a big lesson.
Changed my vibe completely.
Yeah, it was a big moment.
- And when you love somebody like that,
I should say also I learned a lot through my wife
and her suffering of her family of origin
and my inability, or I'll just can't,
you can't go back in time.
When you suffer vicariously for somebody you love, it brings us to a level of
vulnerability because of the powerlessness. And all you can do, there's an image,
there's an archetypal image where you have Mary, the two Marys, Mary, mother of Jesus,
and Mary Magdalene, and John, are positioned in the story of the gospel at the foot of
Jesus as he was crucified. You have this this archetypal imagery of, "I will, I
don't know what it's like to be on your cross, but I'll stand here in dignity
with you and and just solidarity and just like when you sigh I'll sigh I see it."
You know, yeah that standing with dignity is something that I, that's all we can do
when we're in that kind of vulnerability I think, huh? Yeah.
So just all that to say is when I get home then when that person is
gone from my purview and outside of the room, the counseling room or something
like that or off the phone or whatever, you know, that's my own way of almost
taking off the magical personality of that session and hanging up the cloak, if you will,
let them go do their thing and trust that they'll be blessed in their movement.
I hope it's not callous. I hope it's not.
I think it's important.
Yeah. Do you do a visualization with the cloak of the higher self? Is it just that action?
No, for me, it's always and everywhere, it's like a felt sense of what is happening that
doesn't need to accompany a visualization.
I can do it, but it's just as real for me as I walk from this room to that room.
I'm in a different space.
But there is an intentionality to it.

[silence]

Hey, so I was wondering, we were, I wanted to circle back and just see if, I would love to hear a little bit more about your sharing our stories, if we can have a conversation maybe of sharing our stories a little bit as to the degree that we might have been involved in warfare disclosure narratives, and then maybe what were some beginnings of getting out of that, and how we might situate ourselves now. And I say that because it’s a huge issue, I think. It’s peak, I don’t know if it’s still peaking, it probably still is. Probably the crest is not yet there in our collective. I know for me, the movement, the beginning phases of this is not right was 2018. But the real, then the real depression and getting out of it was 2020. But I thought it would be helpful to have a conversation, not only because you and I can share and learn from each other, and I know there are paths, there’ll be some overlap, but there’ll be definitely distinct, I’m sure. but also that there may be one or two people out there listening that might sense themselves in our story and may give them a chance to check out some deeper intuition that might be going on. What are your thoughts? I was introduced to the Disclosure Movement in about 2011. I went to a group gathering with Stephen Greer and it was my mom who introduced me. She was like, “Hey, you’re into aliens and some of those conspiracy things.” And she was too. And so I was excited to maybe go make some contact with some aliens. And I had read Stephen Greer’s book, Forbidden Knowledge. And so that was kind of the start of a lot of my interest in the extraterrestrial phenomena. And I did see like a red orb. I don’t, you know, it kind of didn’t feel very real. it almost felt like it was in my mind almost, it was a weird, weird phenomena. And so it kind of started me on this, what is the real experience and what is just perception? And if you’re looking for something to just show up. But from there, I met David Wilcock a few times at his events and I was really into his synchronicity key and his other books as well. And yeah, I followed him for a year and really enjoyed trying to tell other people about all the things that were in his books. Salamander is turning into, I’ve forgotten at this moment, but changing of DNA through light. – Yeah, his work, I’ve never corroborated it, but he claims that Russian scientists have done these kinds of things, yeah. – Yeah, and there was a lot of pyramid technology that he talks about. It was all through that, but it led me to the Law of One. Because that was his primary source was the Law of One. He lived with the LL research team for some time. And yeah, that was his spiritual foundation. And so I then turned to the law of one, but I kept up all the conspiracy theory work in thinking that that was an important part or disclosure. It was an important part of my story because it led me there. All the things in the law of one that I was at first interested in were in relation to the pyramids, to the aliens, kind of giving me this cosmic picture of what’s going on here on Earth. And so that’s what mattered at first. It was like, I have this knowledge that other people don’t necessarily have. And it’s my duty to share that knowledge, spread these ideas that our history that had been told to us wasn’t true. And so that was how I saw it. And I, over the years, got into even the QAnon stuff, Trump, and it dovetailed with a lot of the conspiracy disclosure movement stuff. An interesting time. And so I felt like I was being guided to understand the experience in a certain way. And it was actually through a roommate that he knew the law of one better than me, or he just had a mind that remembered everything he read. And so I really looked up to him in that he could recite the law of one so readily. And so I, I treated him as a teacher in a way. And, and I was just trying to absorb as much as I could of his teaching. And it was during this relationship that with that I recognize his lack of love for our compassion for other people, Even though he was quoting sources like the Law of One where free will and love and so on and so forth are really pronounced. Yeah, they’re central. And yeah, it was just such a… And it was because of ideas where people were disagreeing with him on concepts with the Law of One that he would get the most upset. It’s like he believed that he understood the law of one the best and that gave him permission to mistreat other people who were claiming to understand it in a different way. And so it took me some time to recognize that he was mistreating other people. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that because he understood, there was some wisdom that he had that gave him permission to mistreat other people. And even though on some guttural level, I knew that it was wrong, I was overriding that. I was like, well, maybe he’s right in some way. And it’s okay to teach these people through a harsh, through, you know, in a harsh way that they’re wrong.

Can I ask you a question there is what I’m hearing you say right there is there there was there was a register of some kind of split inside you even if it wasn’t conscious where on one side you intuited that something wasn’t congruent with what you were reading “Walt Love” one, which maybe your own soul kind of had. His behavior, which seemed to favor wisdom over love, say, that imbalance. Some of the cruelty and some of the ego defenses that were clearly evident in his behavior. You felt that and you could identify that, but on the other hand, you were almost tracking your entire journey up to them. Like if you were to follow the breadcrumbs here, here, here, here, here, it would include him and you’re almost making a preferential option for the breadcrumb pattern to say, “Well, even if I’m feeling this incongruity, I’m going to follow him because that is what my pattern in hindsight so clearly points to.” Is that what I’m hearing you say?

Yes, I would say that it was a situation where I went against my intuition in order, because I trusted him and I trusted his perception of the law, it was like I put him on a pedestal to some degree, believing that his wisdom was greater than my own intuition. And so I went along with it and it wasn’t until I got to a tipping point where he was being very he was attacking other people. So what year is this around? This was the point where I had enough was right around January just before COVID. Okay. As COVID was. So January 2020. Mm hmm. Yes. Yes. And so it was at that point that I recognized that he was mistreating some people, and I tried to talk to him about it, and he would get angry at me. And we were fighting, you know, just trying to—I mean, not like physically, but we were yelling at each other three times a week, something like that. And I recognized this isn’t good for my energy. This isn’t good for me. And I exited that friendship as lovingly as I could have. I helped him to find a place to live, get his budget for him, ’cause he had fear around money. And I showed him it was only a few hundred dollars per month and he had a good job. It was possible. But yeah, And he, that was my starting to recognize that the answers didn’t necessarily come from wisdom. And it was in this shift that I made the choice that I cared more about treating people correctly than I did about, And this was a huge shift in my energy and journey. And I felt so much more love since, for other people who see things differently than me, I can recognize that they’re not wrong for seeing it differently. And that has opened things up for me, opened doors. Yeah, I’m in a much happier place

Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing that, Victor. That’s really beautiful. Just as a side note, I was planning on putting this out as the podcast, so is it okay? I mean, we’re not going to ask names here, but you did mention David Wilcock and whatnot. Just wanted to make sure that you’re okay with having said his name or anything like that?

Yeah, absolutely. I have nothing against David, personally. You know, it’s like I really, I love him for all the information that he did bring to me and I have a lot of respect and love for him. It’s no… I do have this feeling that I’ve moved on from needing his material in order to progress spiritually. But at the same time, I’d love to see him again and give him a hug. There’s nothing negative that I feel about him.

Yeah, good. I’m excited also to share my story. I don’t think I’ve ever shared it in just one place before. But I do have some other questions for you and this might help shape how I share my story. They’re implicit in what I hear you saying, Victor, is that you had you have a curious mind. I mean, I don’t know you that well, but I feel like you’re clearly intelligent, Really intelligent. And I, you have a, you’re a spiritual seeker. I think you’re a mystic at heart, you know, this idea of lived experiential reality is preferenced, you know, something that you can say is yours. And then enjoying ways to get those experiences to, you know, not being scared. So almost a fearlessness in a sense. Seemed like you also have a pretty strong sense of yourself. I mean, if you’re an Enneagram 8, you might have mentioned that before at some point. There’s there’s a rock solid sense of an of a self that Enneagram 8 has. Would you say that’s fairly accurate from a young age?

Yeah, I, it’s kind of a funny experience. I felt the most confident whenever I was probably 17, 18 years old. You know, it was like this. Usually the opposite. Other people don’t feel that confident. I, uh, I just was so, um, I, I believe I’ve always like had a confidence in the way that I speak. Um, and that is automatically, uh, projected, um, outward to, to others. And, uh, it wasn’t, it’s not something that I ever worked on. or it was, it was, it’s my nature to kind of believe strongly in what I understand. And and so that’s naturally projected out in my personality. And I’ve had to work my way backwards to recognizing how little I do understand and how little I do know. And so I’ve been humbled by having that confidence at such an early age. And yet, it’s still part of my personality.

Yeah, they say the healthy eight, Enneagram eight, the hardest part for them is when they’re on that journey towards health is to learn to hold their first impressions lightly, as opposed to, I’m going on the mat for this one. Right.

Yeah, and I’m the type of person that, yeah, I’ve tried to die on so many hills. Yeah. Thinking that that was the most important thing in the moment was to make a point and to be right. To be right.

Yeah. Correction over connection. Yes. And also, did you say you started on this journey when you were 11? Did I hear that? I can’t remember the age. It was 2011.

Oh, 2011. How old were you then? – How old were you then? –

I was about 19. – Oh, I see. – I probably already had a lot of spiritual guidance from my mother, being that she’s a Shiva healer. And so I’ve always been kind of brought up in this spiritual lineage in some capacity. And yeah, I mean, she does retreats all over the world. –

Yeah. – Well, and not to, I wanna keep your mother’s confidentiality intact here. She is, I know her, she’s an Enneagram Eight as well. And she has had some, you’ve had experience through her and maybe with her, in her excavating herself from a certain spiritual community that was not life-giving. At some point she realized that, I know that story. So there’s already built into your psyche, her experience of heavy, have being an activist of sorts inside a belief system that was contrary to say, common culture, and then finding a way in which the blinds, blinders go down, she’s seeing more and then excavates herself from that, which is usually painful. Would you say that’s true? –

Absolutely. There was a recognition that unity consciousness wasn’t being, it wasn’t being on in some way within yet these different groups. That seemed to always be the guiding light for how to move past it. Does this allow for some level of unity consciousness for you to unite with it? Not Nathan. Okay.

And that also helps me to understand that you had already a decently well-formed hermeneutic approach a lens through which you first encountered things like disclosure It wasn’t just, say, going and listening to Stephen Greer or reading David Wilcock or encountering the Law of One material in some way, but it was you with your lenses of reality that were doing these things that would then get processed and strengthened inside your subconscious in the realm of the archetype of experience, say, to where there was a sense, a making sense of things inside you that that were confirmed by different groups and as you got more into the conspiracy stuff. So you already had a mindset that was geared towards that. Is that correct?

That’s definitely correct. I think it’s two sides to that coin. The one you just described and the other side was that I think that genetically I was predisposed to groupthink. You know, so it’s like I had this strong internal mechanism that was telling me to side with certain people and to really fight for those thoughts. And then there was this lens that I was gifted through my mother, my adopted mother, where it was very inquisitive and open and wanting to really seek the truth. So there was two sides to it, where I felt like genetically drawn to. I’m not sure I’m going to be able to do that. I just wanted to say that. Have a community in which I agreed agreed with. And you know, we all said the same things. And then and then the other side, so it was. Two sides.

Okay. Well, your story, there’s a lot of parallels in there. Some of them in the timeline, and then some of it in the different authors. I think our approach to it differs insofar as that we have different Enneagram types also. also. So there’s a different way that I have a needs. I have certain needs that you already were strong on and then maybe but that also opened me up to see nuances that sometimes are missed. But my own journey is that I remember from a very young age, even as early as first grade. I’d had a UFO account in first grade that coincided was the same month, maybe even the same week, as the beginning of the Law of One material that was channeled in 1981. And I’ve detailed that UFO encounter before, but it was it was kind of a purple, white golden orb in the sky in rural Oklahoma and I was out in the country and it was something, I was inside the house and I felt these nudges to go out and then at that point I’d already been prepped in many ways to be okay with things alien because I just started to for months shown an interest and I had tried to absorb all things UFO and alien even as a first grader at that point. And so whenever I saw this UFO it was instead of it being scary it was more like yeah I mean it makes sense. Yeah so what my own personality I’m a two on the Enneagram and so there is with all its gifts of being a two and we really are good at giving and healing and intuiting and empathy but the price to pay for that is enmeshment, personality and difficulty in finding who, for example, who I am versus who someone else is. Where is that energy that intersects? Where is it that I’m me and they’re them? And that is common for most people I know, but for twos it can be really troubling. An illicit two has to go through the hard experience of individuating. They’ll stay codependent, usually for the rest of their life. For me, I always remember my best friend, my best friend since first grade is an eight on the Enneagram, very healthy eight. Archetypal masculine energy. I would have been archetypal feminine principle. Heterosexual and sexual orientation, but inside feeling androgynous, this sense of being male and female together already. Not in a transgendered, non-binary kind of way, the way that we’re defining it now, but more in the sense of maybe what Jung might say as a full human being, as someone who’s got this togetherness. But I think the togetherness of the male/female was still at the level of potentiality. It hadn’t been activated yet. It was there, and the architecture was there, but I had to experience life. And so I’d always been attracted to things esoterica, even as I was a Catholic Christian growing up and having encounters with Jesus and saints and all these other things, very mystical connections. And when I really, I sought out experiences. I went to Nicaragua, I went to Mexico for a semester and got a master’s in, I mean, a minor rather in Spanish. Went to Nicaragua for two years with the Franciscans, thought I was gonna be a Capuchin Franciscan priest for those Catholics out there, they’ll know that, they’ll understand what that, it’s like a religious order. So I worked with the poor in Nicaragua and it really changed me. And what it did for the very first time, and that’s happened several times over again in the disclosure period of my life, would be another episode in this, another chapter. But what it did is it revealed to me my own sense of my reality bubble and my worldview of life was very different than other people’s. But when you’re young and dumb, maybe, at least I was. I had no idea that other people might vision, say, for example, what Catholicism was. Because my lens, my primary lens was religious at that point in my life. And what I learned in Nicaragua is who I was as a Christian, like a Catholic Christian, was really from my background, white, upper middle class, suburban, Catholic, with all kinds of ways that that has a reality. And my dad, I mean, I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh. For me, growing up, the only things I really heard from my dad was with, like, super vitriol. I mean just a seething anger would be the Yankees and Democrats. You know, like those were the big the big evils. And I didn’t really know much else about life. So I go to Nicaragua and I start learning about the Nicaraguan, the Sandinista Contra War, the civil war that happened in the US complicit action there that was happening and the people that were sharing these were people who had been tortured, lost you know legs, their sons were killed and they had to tell me it was like this was their opportunity to tell me somebody from that culture who was super green if you will. I needed to be filled, I needed to be filled. First I needed to have my cup emptied. So my first two months of Nicaragua I was like suicidally depressed. It was like, that’s not gonna work. I made a decision to stay there but that was a way of which emptying my cup and then I just received story after story and my reality of who I thought it was was expanding even as my sense of understanding my roots I could see it more clearly and it wasn’t monolithic. But there’s that enmeshment I’m talking about, not a real strong sense of self. It’s like some nebulous liminal space, liminal nexus of energy in between these massive stories that other people were living, you know. So then I went to grad school at Boston College and that was very formative. I learned about social policy. I learned about social work. I mean that was my master’s, but I also got a master’s in theology. And admittedly, Boston College is one that, the social work profession in general, is one that has what’s called a hermeneutic of suspicion against establishment. Establishment is understood as the traditional heritage values and modernity that evolved from the traditional worldview. Modernity started you know in the 1500s and then really got with the printing press and whatnot and really gets going with the scientific revolution and there was always this is very ill at ease between traditional values and modernity values, especially around science. With the post-modern critique emerging in the ’60s, it really started way earlier with the existentialists and philosophy and all this. But anyway, it emerges to critique the traditional heritage values and the modern modernity values. And it emerges to critique the excesses of both, where both traditional and modernity would be, let’s say, oppressing and marginalizing without recognizing or admitting that they are. So that was the movement of postmodernity. And for all of its critiques, postmodernity does a good job to say, for the traditional values, In the name of your God, you’re excluding and marginalizing those who don’t believe in your God. And moreover, you’re marginalizing an entire gender, you know, maybe, or entire heterogeneous pool and you only really preference certain homogeneity inside your bubble, you know. And then for the modernity, it’s you say you reject religion, but you actually make scientism a religion without admitting the biases therein. Moreover, look at the environment. Look at how we’ve been able to divorce our embodiment from our mind, because the scientific ethos is to really seem, at least at the beginning stages, was to really insert a wedge between what is the mind here and the body. You know, the body is bad, the mind is good, and of course that is what traditional values would hold up as well too. You’ve got this split between the mind and the body. So the post-modernity emerges and that is really where social work was born, and that That is what I really got into. Now, the postmodern mindset is not a comfortable mindset to be in because it made me ill at ease with my religion of upbringing. I couldn’t deny my mystical experiences, but how could I understand them inside the paradigm that also seemed to oppress people? And that was a paradox that I had to start holding together inside myself, you know, and it was a fruitful journey, not throwing out babies with bath waters here is mature work, an act of maturity. And it also helped me to do that politically. Whereas the only way I understood things from a policy and political way was framed from my own father for whom I didn’t have any sense of how he got those things. How did he arrive at those things? So when you’re young what you receive is revealed and and you when you hold it as true usually if you’re a two especially. Maybe not if you’re an eight. You come out of the womb and like stick up your middle fingers like dude I’m me. Bitch I’m gonna go back in there in that womb. But um Anyways, it created a necessary friction for my own maturity, but more, I see it now from a psycho-spiritual way, it created the necessary movement for me to individuate and find out who Doug Scott is in this lifetime, who he is, not in an arrogant way, but in an ego structure way, the way Freudians understand a sense of self. And that there’ll be overlaps between my sense of self and other selves and other events, of course, because there’s those shorelines between all of us, you know. But it doesn’t mean that I have to fully adopt that which I am given either in a strong relationship or institution or ideology. But you know as we mature the pendulum swings so it was really right growing up you know left then you know moving fairly left progressive understanding and what the postmodern mindset does is it actually has something that it doesn’t admit there’s two things that the postmodern mindset does not admit. And this is only in hindsight, like this is only since 2020 can I start to see this stuff, but you know, and this is part of my own story, is it doesn’t admit its commonality with traditional value system, and it doesn’t admit its own inherent incoherence insofar as it says there There is no hierarchy of truths. There are only relative truths, you know, belonging to historical cultural moments. And there is nothing else, which of course is a hierarchical truth. That’s an absolute statement in the name of not having absolute statement. Right. Well, there’s really three things. And the third thing is that inside the traditional mindset, you’re fairly happy. You know, traditional people are happy people. From a spiral dynamics, I don’t know if you’re familiar with that, but the blue level, it’s not related to the chakras, but the blues, they call them the happy blues. But it’s because, you know, there’s my God is the right God and my belief system is the right system and we have the right book and this is how you get to heaven and sacrifice for the group now for rewards later. Inside the modernity, I mean they’re just happy creating their own kingdoms now. They don’t have to wait till later. It’s like science will do it, let’s do it now, you know. So there’s a sense of optimism and moving forward industry, you know. With the postmodern, however, they’re actually fairly angry. There’s a lot of us post-modernity people that are kind of grew up in that or adopted it that are angry because inside that that ethos there’s a hermeneutic of suspicion and it’s a suspicion of whatever is given to us is the dominant message whether it’s religious, cultural, or political, whatever that has the power, is we have to look at it from a sense of why is it saying it’s true and who’s being marginalized here and why is that happening? That’s necessarily an uncomfortable place because one can become defined as that very hermeneutic of suspicion ethos. I am that which questions. You know, I am he or that person who is always looking at what is here and also what is behind here. And I’m trusting that there is a behind here and I’m trusting that it’s malicious. It has an intention to oppress the here. And so the boogeyman for the traditional mindset, for example, in that in that is Satan. Satan is the one that’s trying to–is behind all the world, the quote, “world,” and so you have to reject Satan and follow the tenets of the religion. Modernity dismisses all of that. They just basically say, “What we have is what is right in front of us, and we have to measure that, and that’s how we kind of progress and modernity has done really well with that. There’s a way that I process what you’re describing. And you know, I don’t have the technical terms of postmodernism and traditional necessarily locked down like you do, or understood in that way. But I see traditional systems as closing a certain loop in people’s minds that gives them the ability to move forward. They’re not having to question certain things that the postmodernists do. And in some way causes them, causes postmodernists to freeze and not move forward in some way. And so it I think that that that is what the advantage to to a traditional mindset and gives them that blue happy. Man, I’m just going to put that in my pipe and smoke it here, Victor. It’s beautiful. No, I agree with you because the postmodern rejects those things but the postmodern as well as the modern as well as their traditional inside their bubbles. They believe that they’re the right way to understand reality, you know. and they exclude those who are outside of their bubble. They’re very suspicious, but likely exclude and often violent towards. Now, there’s a fourth movement that emerges from the existential anxiety that post-modernity causes. And that movement is called various things. One, it’s called post-postmodern. Sometimes it’s called integral. Sometimes it’s called metamodern. I don’t know. I don’t really care. But the way that I understand how I feel when I’m inside that particular ethos is there’s a sense of standing under all, let’s say, the other three. Now, I understand this is a Western post-colonial statement. So I mean, I get it. There’s other ways to people understand reality, but I’m just saying the way that I understand it here is that It moves from traditional to modernity to post-modernity, but then when one can stand under thus understand the the beauty of the traditional the beauty of the modernity the beauty of the postman the necessary critiques of post-modernity and the shadows of all of those and to know that I don’t even know all of the beauty in each one nor do I know all the shadows and Lastly to know that I don’t know much right now either so even in my sense of of being freed The freedom that the integral level will say gives is its own Blinders, but maybe the differences at the integral levels by standing under in a sense is You recognize that there are levels of consciousness. There’s development whether it’s on a human one human Person that goes through certain developmental stages that psychologists have known for a long time, but also on the macro scale. There’s a growing Movement that that we hope is ever and ever broader More encompassing the lens is encompassing more reality, you know That’s what we hope is happening at least. And the standing under is a recognition that whatever level I’m on right now, there’s levels of gnosis that are yet to be experienced by me. And so it provides a, I’m hoping, a hermeneutic of humility. Not just suspicion, but humility to say I don’t know. Even if I want and need to take a stand sometimes, even if I have to be assertive in my boundaries? Do I demonize and scapegoat? You know, can I watch my energy as I pour into that boundary making? But I share all of this because it’s setting me up right now, Victor, to get directly into my own consternation with disclosure. Because when I was in the traditional before Nicaragua, I taught one of my gifts, and you could call it pathologies, neuroses perhaps, but it’s whatever I learn I get so excited about. I want to understand it to the level of teaching others. I just I don’t know how not to do that. Maybe it’s because I see everybody walking together and it’s like, “Hey, let’s share. And I do it, my particular gift I think in this area is I hope I’m not doing it as somebody who is spouting concepts as much as I’m somebody who has gone in it with you at whatever level you’re at, you know, put in this insert the person you, not you personally, but insert the person and whatever level and I’m I’m doing like this, you know, 90 year lived experience of what it means to be human II. Get you almost say infected by certain thought systems to the point of like a full on infection, you know full on like full in body full immersion. And then excavate myself through some really stormy anxiety existential anxiety that that whatever I’m, whoever I am now is no longer completely compatible with the energetics of that, of that bandwidth of consciousness of the former, the system that I’m emerging out of. Anyways, I emerge out of something because I know the rules so well I start to see how they’re not working and then I hope that when I teach I’m teaching from a sense of lived experiential reality that is resonant with others. They can say, “That’s how I got into that and now I can see I may not agree with you but I see how you got out of that using the same rules, you know, using the same sort of falling into it you fall out of it through choice but I can see the logic here, you know, I can see the heart moving.” I definitely resonate with the way that you’re describing this and I’ve experience something very similar in pretty much any system that I’ve taken on in which I find myself trying to excavate myself from from from that system and it’s certain aspects of it remain in some way. It’s like it’s like the things that did resonate. II do keep yeah, but but I excavate myself from the parts that. Yeah. That’s beautiful the way see that from an archetypal standpoint is, you know, when Jesus emerges from the tomb, this resurrection archetype, the perfected body, if you will, still bears the scars. Now the scars may not necessarily have to be the the hard-fought wisdom of suffering, you know, that might have happened in previous times, but the scars can also be just these strong ways that my being has been shaped forever more by those experiences that I want to hang on to. So the residue will always be there. I think that’s what I hear you say. Absolutely. Lessons. Lessons, yeah. So then I was teaching what’s called Catholic apologetics in college. I formed a group that were, you know, Catholics were sick and tired of being told they’re going to hell by Baptists. So let’s create a group and, you know, I get excited so then I start, I found this group and there’s 30 of us by the time I go to Nicaragua and I end up morphing in my journey towards post-modernity while most of this group that were my students are still in that vibrancy, you know. From my very, very arrogant perspective. There hasn’t been a lot of progress in 25 years, you know, from their belief systems. But, you know, everybody’s on their own path. Now, the post-modernity that I emerged into in graduate school, I still held it all the way until about 2013. During this time, I delved deeper into social justice work, which I still love. Social justice work, understanding the bias from the bottom. My friend and mentor Richard Rohr, who’s a very famous Catholic priest, Franciscan priest actually, he and I formed a friendship and he remains incredibly influential. His notion of the cosmic Christ, universal Christ, was very much fitting with what I was reading with science, but also Teilhard de Chardin, I’m not sure if you’re familiar, he was a very famous Jesuit priest banned by the church for many years, now is finding a renaissance, where he would say the whole altar is the world. The world is the altar, you know, that mass is taking place every moment, that every moment some part of God is dying and then rising in the next moment. And of course science just affirms this. So this is the stuff that I was interested in, blending in mystical Christianity that I could feel its archetypal truth along with scientific discoveries that were all saying, you know, something with the same voice, this univocity, this one voiceness that was very attractive. But I was also an alcoholic at this point, so I was drinking a lot. It wasn’t a horrible alcoholism, like some people have to lose everything, but for me in 2011, I did reach a point where I, that day, I I drove my two kids, we have three but only two were in this lifetime, and that was a wake-up call. I made that poor decision and I could have gotten to a wreck or CPS or whatever. So I quit, went to AA for six months, haven’t had a drink since. But I also see that that was a way for me to learn the dark night of the soul, my own vulnerability, my own capacity for addictive thinking, my own spirituality. You know a lot of alcoholics are very spiritual in nature and it’s this drive to connect that invites them into the closed energy loop like an eddy in a river that becomes a whirlpool behind a rock. You know it’s It’s this desire to transcend and connect without seams between people, you know, that will often bring people to substance abuse. And it was that way for me. I also see it now in hindsight as it was prepping me for what would happen two years later. And that was a mystical experience where I listened to a Buddhist chant, “Om Mani Padme Hum.” And as I played it on YouTube, I was led to it. Like I saw and felt this golden dew kind of falling down around me and whirling and penetrating me and it ushered me into this new field of consciousness that even right before was not awakened. It was always and everywhere there, but I almost had to have an installation in my operating system for the update to take effect in a sense. Now, that led me to a series of beautiful things, but also it brought me into the disclosure piece, which I would argue, next to learning about my own addictions to drinking was the most painful experience of my life. So I speak with some gravity and heaviness. And I think the path to awakening, to what people call enlightenment, is not a path up. I mean it might be an activation of the upper chakras in some sense, but I really believe that the path up, if you will, or ascension is it to use a new age word, is actually descension. It’s the pathway down. It’s a more full expression of embodiment in the thisness of our reality, in the immediacy of our reality. And so, you know, you saw hints of that when you talked about you’re seeing the incongruity of a wisdom approach over love and you realize for you to progress your natural state was probably more love and influenced, you know, more love leaning and so it was you had to have a preferential option like almost an energetics you put over is I’m going to intentionally receive and interpret things a priori through the lens of love. So I see you talking about that. resonates for me. Yeah, through love though. Yes. Yeah, so receive what is resonating through you measured by and filtered through love. Yes. Yeah, I think there’s no other way to be, but that is a hard-fought position because it goes against what I learned later as the great thought form of bellicosity that exists in all of us, but also I think it most especially exists in the collective. So what happened was is for me is I then moved, I was interested in New Age things, I was interested in Hinduism and Buddhism and past lives and all of this stuff, and this caused a split between me and my wife, for whom, I mean she’s a Harvard-trained doctor, top of her class, brilliant, very simple spirituality that’s Franciscan in its nature, serving the poor, informed by her own Catholicism, most of which she doesn’t need or believe, if you will, or holds lightly, as I do. But nonetheless, things like past lives, things like telekinesis, telepathy, aliens, all of that, this is the domain of the delusional. And I knew this going into my own exploration that this would cause a divergence, a relational divergence that I was scared of and I should have been because it was incredibly painful. So what I was doing though for the next five years, if you will, is dangerous. I think it was dangerous but very common is moving more and more into these realms of more collective energy loops that were closed while not realizing they’re closed and while claiming that they’re the truth or the path towards ascension or freedom of the planet you know. So I I discovered the law of one through a friend. This friend remains a very close friend, but they also had their own blindnesses that they fully admit now. One of those blindnesses was this person’s own background of coming from fundamentalist religion as a young person, maybe not needing that in much of their life as he as they got older but also those things were still closed eddy loops inside that person not recognized you know and so I was introduced to the law of one and then I dove into it full force reading all five books within two weeks you know really understanding the wanderer thing as being something very congruent to my own sense of who I was. Not that I need to have that identity. It might be true, it might not be. I don’t care at this point. But at that point, it was an incredibly strong and important validation that was important. And then I also, though, this same person started to introduce me to ideas such as, well, David Wilcock. They were reading David Wilcock. And like you, you know, if a little, if one beer is good, I’ll take 20. Oh, I don’t know if that was your issue in drinking, but that would have been mine, you know, give me one ain’t enough, baby. I’ve had 20 beers. Uh-huh. Me too. Yeah. And so, you know, if a little bit of Law of One is good, let me read the whole thing. And then start over and start over and start over. if a little bit of David Wilcock works for this person, let me read all of his books now. And so these, I mean, hours and hours I was just consuming all the while the split between me and my wife on, not on surface, but at some level was happening, you know, because I couldn’t track and I was keeping things from her. I had to. Then what happened is I got into Cory Good and that whole intersection between David Wilcock and Corey Good and you know the whole Gaia thing and cosmic disclosure programming and all of that. And while I was… here’s where all of the foregrounding of all of the information I had to say before in terms of these world views, the traditional modernity, post-modernity, and integral state comes into play is, you know, we all have these different lines. So on one line, a spiritual line, I can be super mature maybe, but on a different line I can be super immature. And they don’t all grow at the same time. Most of us don’t even realize there are levels of development, and nor do we realize that there There are different lines that are connecting, but also distinct. And what I was seeing is the same kind of mentality that people I was reading, people I was considering to be leaders in this disclosure movement, freedom fighters, all of this, they were very strange. strange. It took years, took me four, like three, four years to really parse it together because they were speaking from the ethos of a post-modernity, this hermeneutic of suspicion. You’ve got to just feel that everything is suspicious, man. And it is all, you know, it’s all an illusion and it’s the cabal and it’s the Illuminati and it’s the reptilians and the Dracos and they’re creating and it’s the archons and I mean, I could drop 80 different words right now and you’d be like, “Me too. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.” You know, I remember that word. Yep, just lined up. But here’s the thing is they were often ex-progressives. So you had people that were formerly really into, you know, still are probably yoga, you know, natural organic eating, you know, Lulamon wearing yoga pants, hippie pot smoking, everything’s cool man, let’s do it, you know, you know this whole amalgamation of folks that were emerging, I see the time there, emerging. This is where I was at in lots of ways, this certainly this this hermeneutic of suspicion, but on the other hand, the way that they, that I felt that people like Cory Goode, people like David Wilcock, certainly the other influencers, Jordan Sack, Sather, all these other ones that just emerged, I mean, just like a total nuclear bomb of all of these, you know, whistle blowers and whatnot. Their particular cosmology, the way they understood stuff, the role of the positive and the negative and all of this was not any more developed nor mature than the zeitgeist or worldview of the fundamentalist religion that belongs in the traditional heritage values. So you’ve got this weird cultural ethos of the post-modern coupled with the early stage psycho-spiritual processing unit of somebody who’s just starting out in the tradition. And that is when, you said it earlier, and I want to circle back, it’s such an important point, is that is when I realized, you know, the traditional has a lot of important things that it offered me. It offered me a congruency, a a belief system, a belonging system. How about this, discipline? The traditional mindset gives you some discipline, man. And it teaches you selflessness. It gets you out of your damn self ’cause you’re gonna be working for a community that you can’t see. You know, working for a time of the future that is not immediately here. And what I found is the people that were, quote, progressive or whatever, you know, Follow Your Bliss type folks, a lot of their feelings might be more advanced in some way, but their roots only went an inch in the ground in terms of their own ways to make sense of the world. Because what happened when some real pain happens to people, you know, as pain does, we need to have a narrative that helps us to understand and process what is being done. So real postmodern people, new agey folks, they often don’t have roots to then go back and say, this helps me get a sense of it all. So these people maybe who have never had it before, or they emerged from the Christianity earlier on and they threw that whole damn thing out when they moved into postmodernism, they readopted all of the, at this point, atrophied roots that were there if they had the religion or they were growing new roots, but they readopted them all. But instead of angels, it was aliens. So now you can, the belief system, the levels of consciousness was the same as the fundamentalist. but insert the Elohim for God, insert the different angels and darkness and all of this stuff for the biblical narrative. And it was exactly the same kind of thing that you need to have when you start out a traditional belief system. So some of the postmoderns were actually playing catch up while they’re thinking they are advancing more. They’re discovering for them sometimes the newness something and calling it enlightenment, which is actually something they never got to begin with, the traditional. But now they have a belief system and some kind of congruent narrative that defines them, a belonging system which hits all kinds of dopamine, it’s very attractive. And brother, you will go to the mats. Anybody would go to the mat if you’re given a belief system that you’ve never had before, a sense of value and purpose. You know, I’m a wanderer now. Ooh, you know, something like that, I’m a child of the light fighting the dark system to save the world. I mean, you will go to the mat for that and become that martyr for the faith, if you will, if you’ve never had it. This is exactly what attracted me to you in the first place.

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Your ability to like level the playing field. And recognize the congruency of this system or another. And yeah, there’s some equality there that it speaks to me. This is true. It doesn’t matter if you have this system, the traditional system or this new system. you know, you are where you are. And if you are able to learn from someone in one system or another system, you know, it can help you with wherever you are on your path. And that was exactly what I needed to hear in whenever I first met you, was that it’s okay that I went down this path. And yeah, it definitely, it’s great to hear it again in this moment. It’s like, yeah, like I love that there’s no judgment of someone who is on the traditional path or someone who is on this postmodern path. It’s our journeys and it’s beautiful. –

Okay, thanks. Okay, so the, for me, one of the ways I had told you that there were certain lines of maturity and where I felt like I was mature is I certainly felt like I’d gone into some self-awareness, you know, through the addictions and just my own personality and the struggle it is for twos to find interdependence is hard, hard one, you know, and so that gave me some early senses of who I was. I felt like my spirit, spiritual way to understand things was fairly mature given the work that I I had done in my own spiritual life, master’s degree in theology, although that doesn’t mean a whole lot, but also I think my affective and personal connection with this transcendent layer of being, you know, I felt like that was fairly mature. Where I realize now that there was a lot of growth to be had and no one was mentoring this for me inside these groups, nor was it not only not being mentored by the person who, you know, led me into the Law of One or gave me the invitation to come in, say, but was actually, you know, there still operating from– things shifted from, let’s say, me learning from this person to– for a long time it was more parallels. We were discovering David Wilcock and Corey Good together. And then it shifted to I can no longer rely on a depth of wisdom from this person that I loved and love, you know, in this area. And so how do I shift into a suffering leader, a leader that I don’t know if he’s gonna follow me, but I certainly can’t follow that. I have to merge in. And to his credit, his fidelity to our relationship allowed him to see some things that I was seeing. But he wasn’t seeing any of that at that time. Still very interested in sending me all kinds of stuff from, you know, Reptilian’s this and Disclosure Piece that and did you see what David Wilcock is saying and all of this for a long time. And so what the line that I had to mature in was the line of parsing what I said earlier about people coming from a postmodern mindset while and espousing what I would argue is cosmic truths insofar as I I did believe and do believe now maybe some still delusional open to being delusional super delusional conspiracy freak still but opening to these cosmic truths but yet they were packaged couched and narrated by an ethos that nobody was admitting because nobody could see it because when you’re inside something you can’t see it and that was this fundamentalist stripe that was, as I said earlier, completely congruent with early-stage spirituality within the traditional system. But because I had gotten through the very conservative, socially conservative, Republican, Catholic, apologist persona, you know, 20 years earlier at that point, because I had done that work and emerged from that, I had built a muscle. I could build a muscle to sense what I was sensing and then extract what I needed to extract without throwing away babies. Because one of the works that I had done in my sort of integral state, the standing under in terms of the Catholicism was small-c Catholicism of a universal mindset. You know, this tradition, I’m sorry, the universal Christ that is at once ever ancient and traditional as it is ever new and cosmic. And inside this paradigm, my religious paradigm, I could translate and synthesize the cosmic cosmology that being pictured by Ra, say, I could see how all of it fit together and it was congruent with me. And it wasn’t congruent, you know, substitute angel here for alien. No, it was congruent at its pithiness, its depth. Because, say, for example, you know, session 94, which you have to get to 94 sessions, which is almost at the very end at, you know, the Law of Ra, the Ra material, it talks about, Ra talks about the significance of the ankh, the ankh, basically saying the ankh is the symbol that represents the facticity, if you will, that love at its infinite notion comes into manifestation and pays a price for manifestation, that there’s a price to be paid for the expression of love. That gaining is actually earned by the losing. That, in other words, this is what Catholics call the Paschal Mystery, that all dying leads to rising. All transformation is loss and renewal, loss and renewal. And, you know, this is this and you and consciousness opening is a spiral that is ever expanding gnosis of union and unity this and that’s what Catholic means union union and unity with all things the word Catholic means so I had done that work and so then what I was able to do is recognize inside the purview of the disclosure movement and you named the big person David Wilcock, Cory Good, all of these, all of them, QAnon, the one, you know, the Trump and Trumpism and all of that stuff and also on the left the same postmodern, because most of the left is postmodern, the same hermeneutic of suspicion that anything that is ever said by any conservative or traditional is wrong. I prior wrong. The same vitriol, the same bellicosity, the belief system might be different in terms of terms but the structure is very similar to what they’re rejecting. So you just have, you have levels of consciousness that are excommunicating each other and then basically pointing fingers and blaming and demonizing. And the only way you can transcend that is actually to not transcend up there but actually go down and in your own shadow where brokenness, places of incongruity, find the woundedness there and then you’re not ever afraid of seeing the woundedness out there. You know, and so if I’m gonna point fingers I’m also gonna point a finger here inside me and say and I’m still broken and I’m whole and there’s still places I don’t see and I might not be right either but I’m gonna stake a stand. This is wrong. This is right. So with all that being said, 2020 was galvanizing for all of us, for most of humans. Except for my dog. Somehow that Zen master made it through. But galvanizing and what it did is it actually affirmed the patterns of predictable patterns that I was seeing on both the left and the right that were all now being ushered into post- modernity. It’s called the post-truth era. There is no such thing as truth anymore. Everything is up for grabs. You can make your own truth and Trumpism has been critiqued for by sociologists smart way smarter than me. You know they’re saying that that is the post-truth movement with teeth is Trumpism, if you will. And so it’s not just Trump, it’s an unleashing of that which was always and everywhere present in the great collective unconscious, which I call bellicosity, this incredibly large thought form of a warlike attitude that that is ready to defend, but actually prefers the offense. Like the, what is it? Every great defense is a good offense. Yeah, to have that as a–

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Uh-huh, to have that as an a priori stance before any kind of working together can happen because the problem is the post-truth society, post-modern both left and the right, it is no one is talking about what the other person believes is true. Well, I’m sorry, let me say it again. Both sides believe that whatever truth is said by the opposite side is being formed and fed to them by the hidden malicious forces at play and it’s those forces that we have to defeat. So in order for me to be a warrior of light I have to defeat the forces behind you, you liberal that are being controlled by the reptilians? You know, or you conservative who are, you know, basically wannabe Hitler fascists, you know, controlled by base human need for bullying and superiority. It’s the same monster with different horns. One has a tiny mustache and one’s got, you know, whatever. Draco. So anyways, but that conversation can never happen. So that’s the whole problem I think we have right now in our, certainly in our government. You can’t even begin to have a conversation because both parties are assuming that whatever is said by the other one is automatically, even if it’s quote not disinformation, the whole system is disinformation. So whatever is said is never true anyway. So you have to like throw the whole damn thing out and install a new breaking point. So chaos so that upheaval happens and then you know from the rubble the Phoenix rises. You know like that’s the hope. And you know what I think is and not that whatever I say matters but there’s a few people that I respect in this mindset that are in the disclosure field and they’re not big names at all but it’s not the ones that you and I’ve mentioned. There’s a couple of philosophers, Andrew Davis is doing some work, and this philosophy belongs to process thought. It’s white-headian, you know, Alfred North Whitehead thought. I’ve really, really moved into this thinking lately. And these are people that are capable of embracing, and I try to be one as well, embracing the phenomena of let’s say extraterrestrial life and even even the fact that we have been visited / influenced / you know whatever other kinds of genetic stuff is going on. Like all of that is is not anomalous. It’s not if we look at the fact that the whole cosmos is one body, you know, and that just like you are made up of trillions of cells and so am I, and yet you are one body, I am one body, and then you and I make up cells in this larger sub-logos, if you will, you know, we’re making up cells here, then that sub-logos is making up cells in a yet a larger body where there’s other cells in that in operation following cosmic laws. You know, so I’m just making this up, but say the Plinians, for example, or the Arcturians, or whoever they are, those things don’t even matter to me anymore, but whomever it is are just simply cells working inside this larger body operating according to the the biological physics, the metaphysics, the biological metaphysics necessary at play at that scale of existence. You know, so the bloodstream at that point is going to be like the law of responsibility and karma. But it’s just selves with other selves with other selves and these nested realities, you know throughout. And I’ll finish by this, Victor, and I apologize for my dog. She is super jealous of me hanging out with this cat right now. The big issue that I see, actually I’m gonna go into the other room, I’ve given you lots of love. I’m very hot because of the sweater. Yes I did. You know what? I’m a two and I’m gonna say to you, you need to learn some interdependence little kitty. I don’t care if you’re nine weeks old. Grow the heck up. Just kidding. Oh my god. How’s that for maturity? Um, so there’s there’s the one. There’s my other codependent. I know it’s been so long. So the the thing is, is that when we do a deep dive, say in the law of one material and then I employ that, or parallel that with theologians that I really love, you know, that I trust, that are post-deconstruction. People that are in the religious realms, you know, they move from construction or order to disorder or deconstruction and then if they’ve moved beyond post-modernity in their own minds, they’ve moved into reconstruction or reorder. Those are the ones that I trust. Because they’re always humble and they’re always talking about the both/and. They see clearly. They can see the shadows. They see the lights. They see how it all works. You know, those are my mentors. The reconstructionists, if you will. So when I marry what they say with process philosophy and theology, with the Law of One, and my own understanding of that, if I apply that lens to that material, then what I see is congruence across all different epistemologies that I’m using to get to where I’m at. And that is this, that the greatest problem that we have in our collect individual and collective human realm and third density is our incapacity to process efficiently the own internal bellicosity that we feel and to to then process catalysts and receive them and work through them beginning with the heart. Because what we’ve done is we’ve done it with the lower chakra system so much, which is this sense of the “am I going to survive this?” and “how do I exist in a plurality, you know, more than one person?” and “who is that sense of self?” That’s the orange ray, the sense of self inside the yellow ray. you know, all of that just creates this closed loop that I have to dominate others and then our entire systems not… see this is the thing is if you like the Law of One, you don’t have to go looking for Orion, you know, like just just if I was talking to a Law of One scholar I’d say, you know, Orion didn’t really come on the scene too much until like, you know, 3,000 years ago. We, Ra is real clear, for example, that we, our own human nature, created this bellicosity thought form and then enforced it and strengthened it over time. So that Orion just kind of comes in and just, you know, the negative fourth and fifth density groups, you know, they just come and tweak a few things inside this bellicosity system that we already have and that feeds back into us our own creation. You know, we create the bellicosity and it starts to create us. And so inside the disclosure movement that is thus far big, I mean I see it waning thankfully and I see the other one I hope growing but it has been a movement that has been led by reinforced by and galvanized I mean and these are the loud voices a marrying super traditional far you know in our terms a far-right ideology that is um no I shouldn’t say far-right, super traditional mindsets that belongs in early stage. But this is still lower chakra. This isn’t the heart yet. But it’s a sense of discipline. It’s a sense of self. It’s a sense of belonging system. It’s a sense of right and wrong. Those are all good things, but that’s not the heart. That’s still the lower chakra that we need. Most people didn’t have that. They don’t have that in a postmodern system. So they’re grabbing that and then calling it good. So you have all of these people that are discovering Christianity and they’re becoming hardcore like traditional Catholics or Orthodox. You know the Greek Orthodox like the Russian Orthodox. You know they’re they’re coming into the the real liturgical realms because there’s all of this rituals and beauty and tradition and yes, it’s all wonderful, but they’re discovering it as the next ascended moment in their life. And they’re doing it with the kind of angst and urgency and vitriol that you see that belongs in the lower chakra system. It’s not a heart-driven thing. What I’m seeing from people doing that is it’s a recognition of their tree of life has been operating on a very flimsy, very weak trunk. Their canopy might be big, but they’ve spent their whole life heavy on the canopy and falling down and then falling down and every wind is just… and so their desire to have that strength, they’re going over here to get it in the traditional in the name of their own ascension. What they don’t realize, what people don’t realize, is the movement that is prevailing in our society is actually strengthening the bellicose, the bellicosity. It’s strengthening the bellicose thought form because the institutions that people are attracted to are formed inside the bellicosity thought form and are affirmed. In other words, if you do well inside the systems that that we’re belonging to, you know, you can be a great Christian and be the most bellicose person in the world but then be affirmed and applauded and you know be a priest or whatever it is. The whole movement is actually a further ensconcing ourselves inside the particular thickness of this bellicosity thought form that we’re in. So anyways I want to share all of that because and I I appreciate you just, you’ve been such a good listening partner here, but it was great for me to get it out. And I hope it was coherent. I hope maybe somebody can find themselves in what we’ve talked about here, but I’d be really interested to hear any critique or thoughts that you might have. – Well, thank you for sharing all of that. It does give me a taste of your perspective on the disclosure movement in particular. And I felt like what you were saying is right on money. This adoption of these new ways to say the same old things. And they’re staying in the bellicosity. That’s exactly what I observed and became a part of whenever I was supporting Trump. And it was such a interesting experience because I was more left-leaning in college and all my friends were very liberal and I was too. I voted for Bernie and it was this, this weird shift during the whole Trump time that I fell into that delicacy. I was just, I felt like I understood all the tricks that the left was playing on people. And so I went the other way, but I still was fighting. –

Yeah, I just wanted to knock the other side out. And that was, that path is exactly what brought me to the heart because it didn’t feel right. I was mistreating people or telling them that they’re wrong, not validating their experience and their perspective. And I remember this moment on the last day on the last day of Trump’s presidency, I wrote a Facebook post in which I expressed my love for Trump, but also like expressed my, my desire to bridge the people who are seeing things differently than me. And I was just basically saying like, I see what you’re saying and I hear you. And while I may not agree with what you’re saying, I love you. And so like that was a moment for me where I was still caught. I was still caught in this belief system that I understood something that people didn’t understand, but I was shifting out of the bellicosity. And it was a big moment for me. I got banned from Facebook for saying things about the vaccines or other things that I didn’t agree with. – Oh, you’re an eight, so you were taking it on, huh? –

Yeah, I was taking it on. It felt big, energetic. Like I put my soul into that post entirely. and I started getting attacked and people from LL research, even though they didn’t agree with what I was saying because it was, you know, more right wing, it was, they applauded me for trying to be a bridge, trying to meet the– –

They could recognize your heart there, huh? –

Yeah, and so like that whole experience, even after I got banned from Facebook, I was getting messages from a lot of people who were saying, I really love what you said. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it spoke to me and it’s about bringing people together. And so it’s, those are the types of things that over time I’ve recognized, like this is why I’m here. You know, like I don’t need to be fighting for Trump or for Biden. You know, like these people are naive or children in some sense to some of the things that I’m trying to work on, you know, and you know, they’re still fighting this bellicosity game. And so I’m not gonna engage with that as much. And it’s the same thing with the disclosure movement. You know, it’s, I’ve gotten to this point where –

If I find myself being obsessed with certain information where I don’t feel in my heart, then it’s just an automatic, is this what you need to be focusing on? I guess it’s a reminder of, like, even though this information may be interesting, how do you get back to the heart? how do you bring this, can you use this to be a bridge for people? So that’s been my path, anytime, even though I may find something interesting, I’m like, is this gonna help me to bring people together or bring me closer to someone else in a relationship? And that’s, yeah, that’s been my journey lately.

– Do you feel, what do you do when, okay, let me ask you, do you have any strong senses of what’s right and wrong? And then in the name of peace, don’t say those, like how do you navigate with maybe coming down with, you know, coming down to some kind of assertive claim, even if you have to be in opposition with someone, How do you navigate that internally? So first off, yes, I do feel like I know things and I understand things accurately. You know, I feel like I have a great, great grasp over the manipulation games going on in the world. And I think that there is something in the law of one that talks about. “How do you, or maybe Kuo, “or how do you navigate this “of like where you believe something “and someone else believes something else?” And it basically is saying that you have to go with what your internal truth is. You have to like, you have to trust that, you have to in the moment, whether it’s true or not, it doesn’t really matter. It’s like, if it’s true to you in that moment, it’s okay to be in that state. But to also recognize that other people have their own truth and their own reality that they’re grasping with, and it is true for them. And so it’s really this, you have to honor what you understand and what you believe to be true while honoring their different perspective and not imposing your truth over theirs in some way. And so I only share when someone has invited me in some way, energetically or verbally. And I learned that through actually human design, being a projector or whatever, and they give you a strategy of, don’t assert anything unless you’re invited. And that was specific to my aura type, but I think it’s obviously applicable to anybody who wants it and I found that people were willing to listen to me if I was invited. And if I wasn’t invited, they weren’t gonna listen at all. And so it’s just an energetic, like if someone is willing to hear me out, then I am happy to explain my perspective on how I see things and how I see the manipulation going on. And I am very aware of my own biases or as aware as I can be of my own biases. And I share that, I share my biases. I’m like, I have thought this way for this long and I don’t know if it’s right, but this is how I see it. And it’s been effective in reaching back towards the heart because you’re not saying I know what’s right, it’s saying this feels right to me and I understand it to be right in this way, but I am open to the truth, you know? And that’s how I’ve navigated. –

Mm, mm, mm, mm. Thank you for sharing that. I have a lot of similarities there. I might be more perplexed than you in my own way of dealing with it. So I just offer that because I’m clearly on the journey. How I see it is, I, unlike a postmodern mindset of my truth is my truth now and your truth is your truth for you and I’m going to respect that and because that’s a necessary movement, you know, from the traditional to the modernity to the postmodernity. Inside me there’s been some arising, again, who knows, right? Take it with a salt, a grain of salt, but inside me there is a hierarchy of truths that have arisen that I feel are transcendent truths that I wouldn’t claim when I was in sort of a postmodern mindset. But they’re They’re so abstract, not abstract, they’re concrete enough and roomy enough for different perspectives to fit inside, nor do I know how they all fit in. It’s just that maybe I can identify the big old machine that’s working. And how I see it, this transcendent truth now, is that everything arises must converge. that the many, like the one becomes the many, becomes one in unity, which is diversity maintained by love, you know? Not uniformity where we all have to be the same or act the same or share the same essence, but it’s this radical appreciation of diversity informed by the heart becoming one. And then that increases the whole thing by one gestalt, You know, like one further wholeness is then gained, a new singularity which then comes out into the many-ness and then it converges again. So everything arises must converge, that it’s wholeness making. And so I see that as where we’re at right now with all of the chaos that’s going on is that’s what’s at play, is this sense of wholeness making that’s happening. And I see myself as stewarding wholeness. I really do. I hope, I mean, and that’s the truth that I’m living in, as you say so well. I’m just gonna choose to believe that what my faith is, is that my will is to wholeness make, and that’s what I’m believing I’m doing. And I think there’s ways to make wholeness, wholeness ultimately wins, love wins. I mean, there is only one unity here, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be as painful as it needs to be, as it can be. So I think maybe I see myself as an activist in a way to where I’m a little bit more assertive than maybe I should be in pointing out the inefficiencies of how we, including myself, are dealing with Belicocity. Because I feel like the thing that really… like if there is a monster, like let me just say it back in the conspiracy land. The monster is, you know, it’s not the reptilians and it’s not, you know, the Hitler fascists. It’s that Belicosity thought form there that we have created. That’s the monster. That’s the thing that’s behind us. That’s informing us and that is the prism through which we see the world. And I think there’s only one way to deal with the bellicosity. I mean, again, if we take the law of one materialist, you know, may be true. I don’t even need to believe it’s true either. It just has a great philosophy to it. But there’s that, those, remember the aliens that were kidnapped, not kidnapped, they met with Charlie Hickson. And they were tree aliens and they were very positive. They were so positive in fact, that they’d already formed a social memory complex in late third density, which is a properly a fourth density phenomena. And for their own advancement, for their capacity to move into fourth density, they actually, according to Raw, had to, they were not, they could not experience bellicosity inside their own group. So they actually had to live vicariously through Charlie Hickson’s experience of Vietnam in order to process and understand what bellicosity was and deal with it vicariously. Almost like how the angelics might progress on their own path is living in through our own experience in space-time. So bellicosity is not the evil thing. But if it’s not acknowledged, it’s powerful and dangerous. So go ahead. I just wanted to say that– I forget who says this. It’s a Russian author who said that the line between heaven and hell runs through the heart of every human being. I mean, I’m paraphrasing. But that idea, for me– so it’s like the bellicosity is within me. And that is where my responsibility lies. Is the bellicosity within me. And to address it out in the world is great. And I think that it is important that we be assertive in some capacity. But the primary work is the bellicosity with it. And so if I feel invited to provide any type of guidance on how to address the bellicosity within someone else’s heart, that’s where trying to be an activist out in the bigger your world and put up a big sign and let a bunch of people be shocked by my rejection of bellicosity or it doesn’t feel as impactful as a simple conversation with somebody who’s struggling with that and who is also ready to maybe hear another perspective. – But see, I think that is activism. Just like Ross says, if you reach one, you reach them all. I think it’s connection over correction. It’s a preferential option of choosing solidarity with somebody else and then Affirming hope, you know cultivating hope with them and then helping them and me see process You know, like like all of that is the activism That I will be assertive with yeah, there’s just this calculation of where do I put my energy? Yeah, well said. Is it worth it to point it out to the guy being a jerk out in the street and who’s yelling at people? I mean, is that going to be where my energy is best used? And the answer for me is no.

No, me either. But it would be maybe to help others who heard that are affected, to help them affirm what they might be feeling and then get to a place of acceptance and forgiveness in some manner. manner to the degree that they want to. Yes. Yeah. We’re about to end. What a great conversation.

And we’re done. That was wonderful. That was wonderful. I hope this was helpful for somebody as it was for me. And what a delightful person Victor.

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